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01-12-2020, 04:17 PM #101powdork.com - new and improved, with 20% more dork.
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01-12-2020, 04:42 PM #102
In the US there's a helicopter Recco unit in Salt Lake and one out of Whitefish (2 Bear Air - they used their unit in this rescue). If there's a reported burial in the Wasatch without companion rescue the first thing is try to get a dog and handler in the air as fast as possible.
RECCO is continuing its development of rescue reflectors and have released a line of reflectors that can be purchased separately and attached to backpacks, stuck onto helmets, etc. This is to support their RECCO helicopter operated device to allow rescuers in quickly searching large areas for reflectors in a variety of terrain. With the increased incorporation of reflectors by many equipment and clothing manufacturers and the increased RECCO SAR coverage, RECCO has promise for being an efficient search tool not only in avalanche situations anymore. Austria announced that they have 4 RECCO SAR detectors and are able to cover the whole country with this search tool.When life gives you haters, make haterade.
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01-12-2020, 06:15 PM #103
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01-12-2020, 08:02 PM #104Registered User
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There are definitely more around...would be nice if companies made them easily removable, however. Makes it difficult to purchase gear as a potential rscuer if the recco is not removable.
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01-12-2020, 08:05 PM #105
Wow, just put two and two together with the fairer member of the Spud household and it turns out she knew the last victim and I met her all of once. They hadn't talked since probably 2012, but still pretty damn jarring just the same.
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01-12-2020, 09:08 PM #106
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01-12-2020, 09:41 PM #107glocal
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01-12-2020, 10:09 PM #108
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01-13-2020, 12:06 PM #109
Just read this whole thread - super heavy stuff. Thoughts & good vibes to the victims' families, the first responders, and all others affected by this. Sobering to read - I'll be carrying my beacon on deep days inbounds now. What an awful tragedy.
Glademaster - go fuck yourself, please? Even if there is an opportunity for professional growth, reflection, and learning from this incident, this isn't the correct forum for pointing fingers, and none of us are privy to the details which would actually inform a meaningful conversation around avalanche mitigation and snow safety that day at Silver.
Hold your loved ones close.
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01-13-2020, 05:15 PM #110
My jacket and pants both have reflectors, I have no idea where they are and I've looked.
I wonder how many people have reflectors in their gear and don't know it, especially in bounds skiers. Probably makes it difficult to clear out all the Recco wearing volunteers when the detector shows up.
How deep can the dogs find a victim--20 feet obviously too deep?
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01-13-2020, 07:38 PM #111
FIFY. Glademaster was wrong, full stop. The exact thing he (and everyone else) hopes will come from this in the future (learning/prevention) has been proven to be best achieved when blame is kept out of the conversation. The fact that he couldn't check his emotions well enough to avoid that counterproductive post may be indicative of his own psychological state; someone should probably do a welfare check in North Bend.
And we should probably have a sticky in here about finger pointing, it comes up so often.
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01-14-2020, 10:49 AM #112
Gapeasser seems to have taken the hint.
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01-14-2020, 10:57 AM #113
dogs work on the scent cone committed from targets
So densities interference wind time of burial and other factors are great variables in the ability for them to be able to aquire the scent
I pass no judgement offer only vibes for those involved
And attempt to ski with a protect yourself and crew at all times mentality
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01-15-2020, 10:20 AM #114
'Game changer:' New technology assists avalanche search and rescue efforts
“If we start getting more and more people with these RECCO chips, it cuts down significantly on our search times,” said Hutchings.
That’s how a woman’s body was found buried in an avalanche in Idaho last week.
A helicopter using RECCO technology picked up on the RECCO chip she was wearing.
https://www.ksl.com/article/46704664...rescue-efforts
There's 3 Heli Recco's in the US: Salt Lake, Whitefish, and WashingtonLast edited by sfotex; 01-15-2020 at 03:17 PM.
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01-15-2020, 10:23 AM #115
How long before insurers require mountains with avalanche mitigation programs to have a RECCO device so they don't have to call in a helo on day 2? My guess is not until there are multiple live finds.
Originally Posted by blurred
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01-15-2020, 11:47 AM #116glocal
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Dogs and Recco don't come anywhere near what the beep will do. Strapping on is what savers you.
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01-15-2020, 12:02 PM #117
Story in this morning's Spokesman Review. Initial investigation states that the avalanche was started by a skier (not a surprise) and that it was size 3, not 4 as reported earlier. Also, patrol had done mitigation work in line with their normal protocol and, perhaps, beyond but didn't initiate the slide.
My heart goes out to the entire Silver community, many of whom I know, and especially to the patrol who were there and the self-guilt I'm sure they feel. As for the grenade tossers (Glademeister...), snow science is incredibly complicated and we all learn more as these events occur. For these three lost, there have been innumerable lives saved by the work of patrol and the ongoing collection of data and science that will make us all safer as we continue to push limits in our pursuits. I have skied this very area many times myself since my first trip to Jackass Ski Bowl in 1969. I've never seen it go like it did at any time we skied there. It's a freak event.
Here is the S-R article: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/20...skiers-trigge/
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01-15-2020, 03:12 PM #118
I will agree with everything you wrote other than "Freak Event".
Ski area avalanche mitigation is pretty fucking good in the US but everyone who skis terrain that is capable of producing an avalanche should understand that there will always be some risk and they by skiing such terrain they are accepting some level of that risk.
Vibes to all affected.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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01-15-2020, 04:18 PM #119
^^ Maybe freak event isn't the right term but it was definitely an unusual event. My point is that in the 50+ years that I've frequented Silver, albeit not that frequently over the past several years, I've never seen that slope go unless it had been slid by patrol. With that, you're right in that anyone who skis slopes of that magnitude needs to understand that there's always that one time....
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01-15-2020, 04:25 PM #120
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01-15-2020, 05:28 PM #121
^^^ Exactly.
Have a safe winter.I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
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01-15-2020, 06:32 PM #122Registered User
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01-15-2020, 07:16 PM #123
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01-15-2020, 08:41 PM #124
Thoughts going out to him, the families and friends of those lost and to you 2FUNKY. Really, really shitty. Some miraculousnous too however with recoveries of non-beeping folks... man. Good reminder to beep inbounds and think about avi safety even if inbounds. Take care buddy.
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01-17-2020, 02:26 AM #125
Silver Mt, ID 1/7/2020 Two Fatalities
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