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    Head Kore 1 - Head makes touring boots??

    Not sure what just happened, but I just got bootfitter-hornswaggled into a pair of Head Kore 1s, Head's 130-flex, "1500 gram" touring boot.

    Anyone else in these things???

    I had no idea Head makes a touring boot until bootfitter Corey brought it out first thing when looking at my wide forefoot, narrow-heeled foot.

    Boot is in the same category as the Hawx Ultra XTD 130, Zero Guide Pro, Maestrale RS. It was between this one and the Hawx, but this one had such a nice flex and fit so well off the rack. The Hawx felt like it better rearward ROM in touring mode, better buckles, and overall smoother tour, but the Kore fit so well and seemed like it would ski a lot more powerfully. We'll see...




    Measured size 28.5 with my digi-scale
    1270g - shell
    470g - liner (tour wrap is 225g in same size!)
    1740g - total
    + footbed.

    For comparison, I weighed by Maestrale RS2s in size 29
    1321g - shell
    304g - liner
    1625g - total

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    Last edited by meter-man; 12-23-2019 at 08:20 PM.

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    I skied the Hawx XTD for 2 years as more of a touring boot and loved it. I then skied the Kore boot and have been skiing it as a one boot quiver. The Kore doesnt have quite the range of motion or weight attribute as the XTD but overall it does have a good tour mode and is light weight - and it skis damper and stronger on resort terrain.

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    This years version is better than lasts. I've been told they added 1mm of plastic everywhere to get rid deformation that would would happen, the flex was definitely improved whatever they did... They are just fine for a crossover boot if they fit but I wouldn't want to do big long tours on them because of the limited range of motion. To some this is a factor to others it isn't.
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    Been on these for a year of mostly resort use with a few tours. Was Mtn Labs before that. Head is a much better crossover option in my opinion. For my feet they started out very good and as the liner has started to pack my foots been swimming a little. I'm thinking about adding some liquid fit to snug them up a little. I was convinced I wanted something stiffer and narrower and tried just about everything on this year and nothing felt quit as good. That head liner is nice for sure!

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    Skied one day on them. Was able to ski it almost out of the box (just a punch for my bunions @ 1st met head) and they felt sloppy at the end of the day, so it's a very generous 100mm fit (usually I need multiple punches to test any boot that's 100mm or narrower). Good power and stability, mediocre walk mode, light enough to be competitive in the category but you'll need to have a pretty high volume foot to be happy after a week or so of skiing in them. The Head liner is cushy and seems to pack out quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eluder View Post
    This years version is better than lasts. I've been told they added 1mm of plastic everywhere to get rid deformation that would would happen, the flex was definitely improved whatever they did...
    They recalled all of our stock from last year; rumor had it they used the wrong plastic on some of the boots and pulled them all to make sure (problem may have only been on the KORE 2, though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    They recalled all of our stock from last year; rumor had it they used the wrong plastic on some of the boots and pulled them all to make sure (problem may have only been on the KORE 2, though).
    Interesting. i bought the Head Nexo Lyte 120 last spring and one of the boots suffered a crack on the upper cuff. Put no more than thirty five days on these, too. I'm wondering whether or not Head used the same starting materials to construct these boots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    They recalled all of our stock from last year; rumor had it they used the wrong plastic on some of the boots and pulled them all to make sure (problem may have only been on the KORE 2, though).
    yeah all kore 2's got "recycled" into cheap boots. I am told that this years 2 is last years 1.
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    So, after 18 days on these boots, here are some initial thoughts.

    My foot: medium slightly wide forefoot, low instep, narrow heel, narrow ankle, long toes (it's true, but only relevant for the boot length). Of the many boots in the category I considered in this category: Maestrale RS2 (in a smaller size than the one I have now...), Zero G Guide Pro, Hoji Free, Mtn Lab, Dalbello somethings, Hawx Ultra XTD 130, etc., the best fits for my foot were the Hawx in a 29 (29 was just a hair long and too much volume; my heel and instep would have preferred the 28, but my toes would have hated me on touring days) or a Kore 1 in a 28 with some stretching of the toe box forward for more horizontal room. I went with the Kore because the flex felt soooooo good.

    Use: 90% touring; 10% resort/side. Well, that was my intended use anyway. But, as discussed below, they ski so well on the hill, I barely miss my alpine boots! Plus, the touring here in California was awesome in December, but we went through a dodgy period following New Years... So, I haven't toured as much as I'd like. To date, 12 days resort (Squaw, Alpine, Mammoth), 6 days touring.

    Setups skied: Backland 107s with Tectons; Rustler 11s with Shifts.

    Touring: walk mode is decent, smooth and free-flex. ROM has room for improvement, particularly in the rearward range. Forward ROM is great, but rear ROM stops maybe at vertical or 5* shy of vertical (forward of vertical). As a result, my toes definitely get crunched on flats. But I don't notice the rear ROM as soon as I start going the tiniest bit up. To get the full free flex, I need to fully unbuckle (from the ladders too) the top buckles, and loosen the booster strap. The boot is comfy, so I can tour fine without undoing the buckles from the ladders, just would have less ROM. My max days have been 5000 ft vert, so nothing big yet. That will be the real test.

    Comparo: Compared to the Hawx, my RS2s, and RS1s, the touring is not quite as good. I'd say 85% if I had to quantify it.

    The Hawx and RS2 ROM is much better in the rearward direction (maybe 10* back of vertical?) and has a smoother stride. Hawx buckles are really nice too - no need to undo the clasp from the ladder. Nice booster. Liner feels okay - not a throwaway but not amazing.

    Leakage?: I've noticed that the front overlap of the boot, near the toe, seems to bow up, particularly when buckled tightly, creating the potential of leakage at the toe. I've seen one complaint about leakage. I have not done much touring in them to date, but have yet to suffer any leakage (entry of snow/water into the boot via that "open" overlap). Will update if and when I do....

    Sole: Gripwalk. Need more time on steep and firm before I can evaluate. I've only ever heard 9523 soles (awesome) or alpine norm (hairball). These seem closer to 9523 in function, but not sure yet.

    SKIING: holy shitballs, yes! Same weight as my RS2s, lighter than my RS1, ski 75% better.

    Liner: heavy as fuck. Can inject some heel juice to tighten up the heel and ankle volume. Haven't done it yet, but that would make that liner last longer. Practically a resort liner in how it skies. Plush. Hasn't packed out as quickly as I feared. Still tours pretty darn well. Warm. I also have some Tour Wraps I'm going to throw in over spring.

    I do notice that the buckles tighten up the boot significantly, and I need to unbuckle them faster than on my alpine boot. Not sure if that's the lightweight material, the fact that the shell material is really thin, or what. Notable.

    Power strap is the best velcro power strap I've used. on all my alpine and touring boots, I have swapped out stock velcro for Boosters, but I'm leaving these. They have a FAT rubberized thing (a "Power Plate") that goes over your shin and makes it smooth and tres powerful.


    DID I MENTION THE SKIING? These things rip. The main time I miss my alpine boots is landing airs, particularly on firm snow - you can feel the much lighter materials don't quite have the shock-absorbing suspension of an alpine boot. One day, I skied 30,000 vert at Mammoth on hardpack groomers and some hard and later soft bumps. I barely noticed I had touring boots.

    Comparo: I never enjoyed a resort day on my RS2s; tolerated, yes. RS1s were worse. So, yeah, these Kores rock.


    SUMMARY: unknown dark horse that is surprisingly solid as a touring boot. As compared to the RS2, it skis down WAY better, and tours a touch worse. The only time I might prefer the RS2 is on a multi-day tour. KORE rocks! Having never looked at Head products before, I will look at all their gear more closely in the future...

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    Who "buckles the toe tightly"? The only point of the toe buckle is to water seal the shell and let you out of the boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanCH View Post
    Who "buckles the toe tightly"? The only point of the toe buckle is to water seal the shell and let you out of the boot.

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    Probably depends on the the boots yer in, and the exact location of the front buckle/vs the front of foot, but, I like to crank 'em down in techy, billygoat terrain so the ski boots have the feel of tightly laced rock climbing shoes...better immediate ball of foot feel of the front of the skis for insta pivots, jump turns, feathering the edges while slarving around rocks, etc... For normal skiing, I don't really buckle them with much tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanCH View Post
    Who "buckles the toe tightly"? The only point of the toe buckle is to water seal the shell and let you out of the boot.

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    lol, that's what you got out of the review?

    ANSWER: I, apparently, buckle my toe "tightly" - cause I like to get tight. Not deathgrippy, but tight, yo. TIiiiiIIIIGHT

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