The death of women’s sports

**ncskier** · 12-25-2019, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Yes but they also have to own being gay and go through some gender reassignment to do that. If they're really gay so what? If they're not, they're not going to do that just to beat girls.

Maybe adults vs kids next!

For the record a trans athlete does not have to be considered trans by having sex reassignment surgery nor be gay. I don’t believe either of the trans runners in Connecticut had gender surgery. So yes those girls were running against a biological male with a penis who may or may not be gay. It’s complicated and I can understand why those high school girls would be upset.

**I Skied Bandini Mountain** · 12-25-2019, 07:56 AM

So is the 500th ranked men's tennis player planning on transitioning? Or any others from 1-499? No.

This is a Breitbart troll, nothing more.

Darling daughter (D1 athlete) can barely register an eye roll over this made up issue.

**SumJongGuy** · 12-25-2019, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Core Shot

But dudes that transition, and then decide to compete in sports will crush biological women.

How dare you call dudes in transition dudes?? What a fucking bigot you are!

Anyway, we're currently talking about what % of the population actually wanting to play on the womans team while having a penis or used to? For pro level sports with written contracts or international governing bodies they seem to have a set of rules and system that's working for most.

But for grade school and college, where nobody is getting paid, I suspect Title IX will allow that 3% or whatever to play as female.

Speaking of high school..
High School athlete turns out to be 30

A 25-Year-Old Man Lied About His Age To Play High School Basketball

6 Athletes (and a Coach) Who Lied About Their Age

**SumJongGuy** · 12-25-2019, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain

So is the 500th ranked men's tennis player planning on transitioning? Or any others from 1-499? No.

This is a Breitbart troll, nothing more.

Darling daughter (D1 athlete) can barely register an eye roll over this made up issue.

My daughter also said "why is anyone even asking.. of course it's OK for them to play on the girls team"

Edit to add a little more insight.. I coached my sons and daughters youth coed soccer teams from U6 through U17. There was always ONE kid on the field that was significantly better than everyone else.. Yes, usually a boy. Everyone still had fun.

**DaveTV** · 12-25-2019, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by rod9301

What, so you don't think black men have an advantage over white men in sprinting?

How many white men win in a 100 meter race?

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Why you keep trying to deflect the argument and make a racial issue out of it?

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**rod9301** · 12-25-2019, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by DaveTV

Why you keep trying to deflect the argument and make a racial issue out of it?

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Why is this a racial issue ?

Is it not factual? Or correct, for the ones that do not know the word factual

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**MarcusBrody** · 12-25-2019, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by frorider

The TGR article this summer on Kate Weatherly led me to this article: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/bl...e-not-conflict

It's an interesting article and I'm all for further research. I could certainly be convinced that it's not an issue. Distance running seems to be best case scenario with women. Women already win some ultra endurance events against mixed fields.

The handball example isn't a great one though as it gives no context. The author says that because player was only the third leading scorer on a national team at a major international competition, it shows that transitioning wasn't an advantage for her. Well, I buy that if she was a top level player on the male side before transition. If she was a much lower level player who suddenly jumped to being a top international level player after transition, then I think it's an example in the other direction.

**SumJongGuy** · 12-25-2019, 10:26 AM

Men and women remember pain differently

**old goat** · 12-25-2019, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Yes but they also have to own being gay and go through some gender reassignment to do that. If they're really gay so what? If they're not, they're not going to do that just to beat girls.

Being gay and being transgender are completely different things.

**wooley12** · 12-25-2019, 11:01 AM

If you know any gay or trans then you know that it is not a lifestyle that is easy. Not something that one would chose just to win a race. Threads like this prove Carlin was wrong. The number is closer to 75% IMO.

**SumJongGuy** · 12-25-2019, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

Being gay and being transgender are completely different things.

Both are things that aren't taken lightly. Neither would be owned by any sane person just to play sports or play sports more successfully.

**old goat** · 12-25-2019, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Both are things that aren't taken lightly. Neither would be owned by any sane person just to play sports or play sports more successfully.

agreed, but you seem to equate the two. Being gay is about who you are attracted to. Being trans is about who you think you are.

**ACH** · 12-26-2019, 12:07 AM

Fucking tapatalk...
Nothing to add here.

**4matic** · 12-26-2019, 09:53 AM

Women's golf is doing well
https://www.instagram.com/p/B589dyFH...on_share_sheet

**SumJongGuy** · 12-26-2019, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by old goat

agreed, but you seem to equate the two. Being gay is about who you are attracted to. Being trans is about who you think you are.

Right, should have said "non cisgendered/straight" instead of gay. I usually avoid trying to define things I can't fully understand, nobody who isn't can fully understand what it's like.