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12-18-2019, 09:46 AM #26
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12-18-2019, 11:37 AM #27
Good replies thanks all. I had some difficulties the other day in some wet heavy snow in about 26F temps. Bases had a lot of structure but very dry(and not sure what wax was applied last). skis were quite sluggish to turn so I was wondering if that was the problem. Seems like it could be. I’ll have to apply a proper wax before I go out next on them and see how they compare
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12-18-2019, 11:56 AM #28
Best way to really dial in fast waxing is to skate ski. You reaaaaaaalllly notice bad wax then!
There's a point where structure is more important than wax in terms of water content of snow. Think of why warm wax is soft, its so that you have a more porous structure breaking suction with the water layer in the snow/ski interface, inversely cold wax is hard to fill up those pores and make a smoother base. In warm snow though I suspect the hydrophobic properties of wax are also important to keep those pores clean.Its not that I suck at spelling, its that I just don't care
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12-18-2019, 01:56 PM #29
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12-18-2019, 02:49 PM #30
Bingo...That crew was so fucking fast that it was a treat to be first on anything at all, much less a pow day.
Doug, Howard, Benny, Haas and the entourage that always peeled off quickly. Myself included.
DC once told me that 2 skiers always makes a race. If you passed him on the cattrack, it was on. To the bottom too. Once I followed him onto a lower face/Sublette ridge and he just put it into a super G turn and disappeared before my eyes. Longboard days when GS'ing big turns was better in crud/mank.
When I first moved to JH, boy lemme tell ya, I had zero fuckin' idea of the ski bum life. Thought I did, but no.
Worked on the box for a coupla years, saw how those guys did it and bought in. Big time.
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back on topic: yeah dry skis in wet snow will be tougher to turn and manage overall.
I have been on skis that hadn't been tuned in forever but turned out to be real fast. I think the ptex had turned to Teflon.
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12-18-2019, 02:57 PM #31
As my old ski buddy Rago used to say, "Skiing on skis that aren't tuned is like driving a care without air in the tires." It'll get you there but it's a shitty ride.
Gravity Junkie
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12-18-2019, 03:20 PM #32
Actually skis slide on a microscopic sheet of water, ideally. The wax hardness determines the amount of friction, and thus whether or not the ideal water layer will form, or if there's too much water. Hard wax creates lots of friction to melt cold snow (or sharp crystals), while soft wax only creates a little friction to get warm snow the rest of the way to 32 degrees. Above freezing, it's all about minimizing the excess water and breaking suction.
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12-18-2019, 04:00 PM #33
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12-18-2019, 04:50 PM #34
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02-16-2020, 03:27 PM #35
As a follow up to this thread, I had the skis I was on smoothed out with a finishing stone (still a somewhat course structure left) and waxed properly. Made a huge difference in how they skied - much quicker to pivot and a lot more nimble.
So yes I'd now say, dry/slow bases and incorrect base structure can make it a lot harder to turn and pivot a ski properly.
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02-16-2020, 03:56 PM #36
The skivisions guy emphasized light structure touch ups often (using his product, of course) along with edge work, and waxing. Unless you’re making base/edge repairs.
Being Tahoe based, I only warmer temp waxes. I hate having cold wax on my skis on warm snow.
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02-17-2020, 10:20 PM #37
Spring structure is deeper--to break the suction. You shouldn't be able to feel a winter structure with your finger nail. Spring structure you can. I've never had the misfortune of trying to ski spring structure in cold snow but a friend of mine who did said the skis were unskiable (professional guide and patroller). In the spring when you start getting that catch and release catch and release thing going no wax will help--only spring structure. I prefer to just call it a day and have a beer in the sun.
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02-17-2020, 10:43 PM #38
Shit, I wax for conditions, wax and polish the kids skis before every training. Spend a ton of time at the bench. I think it makes a huge difference. And as stated above....it pretty satisfying to coast past your buddies while they’re skating and poling down the cat.
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02-18-2020, 08:57 AM #39
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02-18-2020, 09:00 AM #40
I used to do different waxes, but it seemed I always had the wrong wax, so now I just run on universal wax all the time. Classic "good at everything, great at nothing" approach.
I agree it is a constitutional right for Americans to be assholes...its just too bad that so many take the opportunity...iscariot
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02-18-2020, 11:26 AM #41
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