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12-18-2019, 09:36 PM #151Registered User
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Take a chill pill. Jesus. It's exactly like biking, I can bike up the trails at most ski areas for free, sure there's downhill only trails, but most ski areas grant free access to the trails in their boundaries whether on private or public lands. (Esp xc trails)
It should be the same with skiing. If the resort does avy control then I get it, but many resorts could grant access to their runs or restrict people to where they don't do avy control. It's good for the sport.
And while I don't often skin up ski resorts once they are in operation, I do it on occasion and it's a blast! I also have friends and family that don't feel comfortable skiing in the backcountry at all times and the opportunity to go ski before/after work or just get some fitness is much appreciated.
Also if you have trouble avoiding someone slowly walking up the side of a blue or green ski run, you may wanna work on your technique a little and then maybe the joy of the uphill will be revealed to you.
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12-18-2019, 10:43 PM #152
Where's the best place to skin? Common sense would say the edge of the trail so as not to obstruct downhill skiers, but IME the fastest downhill skiers often hug the edge of the runs because that's where the gapers are not. I taught my kids to allow room between them and the edge of the run to give a faster skier an out on either side of them Also, harder to see skinners against the trees. We don't want skinners in the trees--that's the best snow and we don't want it cut up by a skin track.
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12-18-2019, 11:46 PM #153
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12-18-2019, 11:51 PM #154
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12-19-2019, 07:51 AM #155
RE: Bridger, No uphill traffic allowed during the operational season.
There are undesignated routes on public land that will get you past the operational boundary.
RE:How the fuck is it good for the sport?I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.
"Happiest years of my life were earning < $8.00 and hour, collecting unemployment every spring and fall, no car, no debt and no responsibilities. 1984-1990 Park City UT"
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12-19-2019, 07:53 AM #156
I rather have some pistesinners on the slopes, then one of them putting there track in a nice chute or bowl in the sidecountry.... imagen that!
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12-19-2019, 08:17 AM #157
Where’s the best place to skin? The backcountry, duh.
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12-19-2019, 08:52 AM #158
Decent, but a lot of the patrol at the resort I ski are also SAR, so if someone needs rescue in the back country, then it does comes from he resort in some manner. Those patrollers need to leave.
You can also access side country from outside the resort, if you are skinning adjacent to resort.
I think of side country as lift assist and in an adjacent basin. My "sidecountry" ski is also my rock skis. Heavy and with frame bindings. Skis great inbounds and can do short tours with them, or lift assist runs just outside the resort. They would be a beast to tour on daily (which I did at a younger age) or on long backcountry tours with distances to cover.
Backcountry is remote; not adjacent to a resort.
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12-19-2019, 08:54 AM #159
Its good for the sport of skinning. Uphill traffic at downhill resorts will sell more randomizes gear. Duh.
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12-19-2019, 09:02 AM #160
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12-19-2019, 10:01 AM #161Registered User
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When it's federal or state-owned land, or even land leased from another private landholder, the terms of the lease or special-use permit matter. If those terms specifically allow for non-motorized recreation access, or hunting access, or whatever other sort of access to the permit/leasehold, then the leasee (the ski area operator) needs to deal with that, or negotiate a lease that doesn't include those terms. It's not any different than someone leasing a woodlot to forestry company but requiring in the lease that certain hiking trails on the lot be left alone, or that logging operations cease during rifle season for the benefit of those seeking venison.
On private land, it's up to the landowner, and if that landowner is also the ski-area operator, they get to pick the rules.
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12-19-2019, 10:26 AM #162
https://mtnath.com/skimo-in-resort/?...J-SmxubAXavMlw
It's a thing. When I have a family, I'm going to book my ski vacations at a place that allows uphilling.
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12-19-2019, 10:51 AM #163Registered User
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More people skiing is more people skiing so how does one separate them from their money when they are there might be a good question ?
locally the policy has been all over the map in the last 15yrs, people have come, people have gone , up hilling has been allowed, uphilling has been not allowed, its been ignored by some staff, ski hill cops have been ignored, ski hill cops have lost their jobs, the resort has allowed sucessful all night 24 hr rando events for maybe 5 years in a row ( before people realized it wasnt much fun ) the resort has allowed an inbounds rando race,
butt thru it all one thing has remained the same
nobody has ever got hurtLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-19-2019, 11:01 AM #164
^ I help organize an inbounds (after-hours, inbounds but not open at that time terrain, with cooperation from the resort) Tuesday night "skimo race" series here in UT, which has been going on a lot longer than my involvement in it. Last season we averaged about 100 participants per race, with I think 8 races. The first (and so far only) race this season we had 158 in attendance, and fwiw probably less than 20% were in spandex or with rando gear... I talked to a lady with dukes on heavy ass lib tech alpine skis, a couple splitboarders, etc. Never had an incident yet, knock on wood, though we do have insurance and waivers and all that stuff. After the race we bring all 100++ folks into the lodge open for night skiing and tell people to buy beers, snacks, etc to support our gracious hosts. I think they do ok on us tbh. We also park away from where any night skiing patrons would be parking, to minimize impact etc.
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12-19-2019, 11:08 AM #165
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12-19-2019, 11:38 AM #166Registered User
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well there ya go ^^
the sanctioned events locally all had waivers signed but no body ever got hurt
even the 24 hr event, during which ever one ( excpet the solo guys ) was drinking beer and skiing by headlamp
at midnight there was that impromptu torchlight parade but with roman candles ... try not to hit anyone eh
if people can't walk a few extra yards or meters in the car park they should consider joining a book club or knitting groupLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-19-2019, 11:41 AM #167
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12-19-2019, 11:50 AM #168
Agreed.
At Crystal, I would say the zone directly behind the gondola top is backcountry, while the areas south of the Throne are side country. Don’t they do some control work in their sidecountry?
I sometimes consider road side attractions sidecountry even tho they are not near a resort, they may be close to civilization.
Hairs.
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12-19-2019, 11:55 AM #169Registered User
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The only time a patrol would do control work in "sidecountry" is when it could potentially avalanche into their terrain. Otherwise there are potential legal risks with doing such. Which is why no one i've ever met that teaches avalanche classes calls it sidecountry. it's all backcountry.
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12-19-2019, 12:05 PM #170Banned
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12-19-2019, 12:24 PM #171
I need me sum hippo skins.
watch out for snakes
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12-19-2019, 12:45 PM #172Registered User
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sometimes your posts flay me SB
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-19-2019, 03:44 PM #173
Hell yeah, this is doing it right!
We have a similar league (if you can call it that) on the Pass.
Fair point
AFAIK, Alpental, Baker and Steven's also have BC adjacent to side country.
A little different here.
Speaking for Alpental specifically because this is where i spend the lions share of my time... They routinely do control work in the side country (mostly cornice mitigation) but I've seen them also ski cut and toss charges after a big storm too, and none (or very few) of these aspects would run out through inbounds terrain. Sidecountry at Alpental is part of their SUP.
Heh, well played sir.
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12-19-2019, 04:12 PM #174
Sorry for first throwing in the sidecountry word. As a european it was definitly wrongly used. As your inbounds, would be my partly patrolled sidecountry.
Or better said liftaccesed backcountry.
Splitting hair. Back to the topic. To summeries.
It is not ok to park first row in the parking lot. Skin up the slopes and ski on the groomed run. WHY?
Are you jealouse somebody is taking something for free. Even he is not disturbing you?
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12-19-2019, 04:36 PM #175
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