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  1. #26
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    Amazing. So far everyone is in agreement about something on TGR.

    Ummm........ sooo.......how about this weather eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    and god bless them for that
    Amen....

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    A couple weeks ago I did my early season circumnavigation of Wolvering cirque. Parked at Alta, went up and over to Brighton, stayed as far off the groomers as I could on my way to Lake Mary (probably still on Brighton-leased land but away from things people ski), then over to the top of Supreme. An Alta patroller asked me to go back the way I came since they were doing avy control all over Catherine's area and didn't want goobers getting blown to pieces. Dude was extremely annoyed with me and very defensive when I asked him where he'd like me to drop, as if he was ready for me to argue about my right to be there. I had to clarify that I had no intention of skiing closed terrain just because I had marched myself up there on my own power. He told me he's had several negative interactions with bc bros who felt they had a right to ski whatever they wanted, closed or not, because they hadn't ridden the lift and didn't have to follow the resort rules...

    I like running a couple groomers early season but not enough to pick a fight with a patroller or dodging bombs on my way down. I would have felt the same way had I paid for the right to skin around the resort.

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    This uphill skiing open resorts is about as stupid as sleeping on the roof of your car. The reason for touring gear is not to go to the resort. Resorts should charge them as much as a lift ticket. These people are coming to use their avalanche control, grooming, parking lot, bathrooms.
    off your knees Louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiing-in-jackson View Post
    There was a physician in town that got escorted off the hill and maybe arrested a few times for challenging the no uphill travel policy at JHMR.

    Now passed away, Dr. Fleck always made for good newspaper stories with his numerous challenges to no-uphill policy. I was on AV while he was skinning up Tewinott Gully. He was in a heated argument with deputies. It was great. He was a really good climber back in the day, so I always thought he had the proper mojo to conduct the argument.
    When I worked at JH Aviation, Dr. Fleck would often fly his Mooney down to Afton without even sweeping the snow from the plane, let alone de-ice. Dude had large testes! I always wondered about his common sense though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    These people are coming to use their avalanche control, grooming, parking lot, bathrooms.
    And that bothers you as an individual, why? Are you the majority owner of a resort who feels that you're being stolen from?

    I would rather deal with people skinning than people on snowboards, but that's just my $0.02.

    I have no opinion one way or another about resort skinning, but I do find the vehemence of some people's reactions to it funny.
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    ^^resort skinner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    Resorts should charge them as much as a lift ticket. These people are coming to use their avalanche control, grooming, parking lot, bathrooms.
    ... but not their....?

    lifts the answer is lifts. they don't use the resort's lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn View Post
    ^^resort skinner?
    Back in the days when Alta allowed uphill access, we used to skin up the resort regularly around full moons with libations of the legal and illicit varieties. I will unapologetically state that there are few sensations more sublime than carving perfect slalom radius trenches in fresh corduroy under a full moon with a bunch of boomers coursing through your system. I recall multiple occasions where I had to stop because I was laughing so hard I was crying and couldn't see shit.

    Then I did a bit when I could walk out of my office in my AT boots and be skinning in 4 blocks. It was nice to have a full time job that came with a ski locker.

    Now I'll occasionally go skin a lap or two at Hyak after work, because sometimes working out indoors isn't as appealing as breathing fresh air (well, as fresh as it can be with a huge interstate right there). It's a nice option to have when I don't want to deal with much complication and just want a cardio-induced endorphin hit.

    Can't say I've ever skinned in-bounds while the resort was open for the day for lift-served skiing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Back in the days when Alta allowed uphill access, we used to skin up the resort regularly around full moons with libations of the legal and illicit varieties. I will unapologetically state that there are few sensations more sublime than carving perfect slalom radius trenches in fresh corduroy under a full moon with a bunch of boomers coursing through your system...


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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Back in the days when Alta allowed uphill access, we used to skin up the resort regularly around full moons with libations of the legal and illicit varieties. I will unapologetically state that there are few sensations more sublime than carving perfect slalom radius trenches in fresh corduroy under a full moon with a bunch of boomers coursing through your system. I recall multiple occasions where I had to stop because I was laughing so hard I was crying and couldn't see shit.
    I agree with this poast.

    Nice video abe.
    And I guess that I just don't know

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    It doesn't really bother me that people want to hike uphill, inbounds, while lifts are spinning.

    But I'm completely baffled by it. Especially when there's perfectly good, entirely safe mellow pow skiing that's just off the side of the resort. But hey, more pow for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    It doesn't really bother me that people want to hike uphill, inbounds, while lifts are spinning.

    But I'm completely baffled by it. Especially when there's perfectly good, entirely safe mellow pow skiing that's just off the side of the resort. But hey, more pow for me.
    These folks aren't looking for pow, they are just killing cardio time until the next Peleton session.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    And that bothers you as an individual, why? Are you the majority owner of a resort who feels that you're being stolen from?

    I would rather deal with people skinning than people on snowboards, but that's just my $0.02.

    I have no opinion one way or another about resort skinning, but I do find the vehemence of some people's reactions to it funny.
    I really do not care. Just seems ridiculous to me. I may not be the owner of a resort. I do think if you are using the services of the resort you should pay.
    off your knees Louie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    These folks aren't looking for pow, they are just killing cardio time until the next Peleton session.
    Sure. But if abject misery in search of fitness is their goal, it seems possible to achieve that in a location that has the side benefit of a fun descent. Or they could just nordic ski and get all the misery on far cheaper gear and not have Texans flying past them at 50mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Sure. But if abject misery in search of fitness is their goal, it seems possible to achieve that in a location that has the side benefit of a fun descent. Or they could just nordic ski and get all the misery on far cheaper gear and not have Texans flying past them at 50mph.
    A surprising number of them are still learning to ski while being able to climb, and one man's misery is another man's fun.

    You do realize that some people exercise for fun, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    A surprising number of them are still learning to ski while being able to climb, and one man's misery is another man's fun.

    You do realize that some people exercise for fun, right?
    If only there was a way to exercise for fun while also having actual fun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    If only there was a way to exercise for fun while also having actual fun...
    Well now you have to give your definition of what is "actual fun".

    That way when I see these people skinning up inbounds enjoying themselves, I can tell them how they are supposed to be doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    Well now you have to give your definition of what is "actual fun".

    That way when I see these people skinning up inbounds enjoying themselves, I can tell them how they are supposed to be doing it.
    My definition of fun definitely doesn't include dodging gapers while walking uphill when there are gaper free hills to walk up as far as the eye can see in every direction.

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    RESORT UPHILL SKIING — A RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mofro261 View Post
    These folks aren't looking for pow, they are just killing cardio time until the next Peleton session.
    While ripping around Winter Park two weeks ago,I saw some guy in Skimo gear skinning up and down for hours along a blue from Snoassis up to Sunspot. Over and over again. To each their own!

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    It should only be allowed for naked people..

    #SkinnySkinning or GTFO!
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    It’s frickin huge here. We literally have hundreds a day.

    I’m pretty pleased by the Aspen Ski Co rules. On the whole they’re reasonable and sensible.

    I’d estimate at least 60-70% of uphillers,are women.

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    Nobody has brought up dogs yet, eh? I know several people who have had negative interactions with dogs over the past 2 years skinning evenings at ABasin and Loveland, and even more negative interactions with the owners of said dogs. Not to mention the piles of dog shit that get left on the groomers for everyone to dodge the next morning. I'm all for allowing uphill access, and for charging a bit for it, but can we get rid of the dogs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    It’s frickin huge here. We literally have hundreds a day.

    I’m pretty pleased by the Aspen Ski Co rules. On the whole they’re reasonable and sensible.

    I’d estimate at least 60-70% of uphillers,are women.
    Kind of mind blowing how big it’s gotten here in just the last 5-7 years. The scene at Buttermilk got so big they had to embrace it just to get some control, (and make some more money so they don’t have to start charging) with the uphill breakfast and full moon dinners.


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    Clearly a privilege. I think it’s reasonable for resorts to require a day ticket or season pass for uphill travel on days the resort is operating. This should also include entering the ski area boundary. Also not unreasonable to require all up-hill travel to be on designated routes or completed outside of operating hours + a 30-60 minute buffer window; IE no touring between 8:30-4:30 for an area which is loading lifts from 9:00-4:00.
    No dogs on days the resort is operating.
    Restrictions for avalanche control is a no brainer.

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