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12-12-2019, 05:04 PM #1Registered User
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What happened to my Helio 105s
I put away a pair of BD Helio 105s at the end of my season, and just took them out and was heartbroken to find that one of them appears to be irreversibly fucked. It’s lost all its camber underfoot and the tip makes contact just in front of the binding (13” inches further back than the other ski, on a 175 cm ski). Any ideas why this would possibly happen? They’re not even close to clapped out and have maybe 30 days on them over 3 seasons. I’m wondering if my method of voile strapping them together (tied at the two points of contact, tip and tail, with the strap between the skis to keep the bases from rubbing) is a terrible idea. Any ideas for how to attempt to fix it? Can I banana the other ski and rock em in pow? They’re unskiable as they stand, but I’m hoping for a miracle.
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12-12-2019, 05:08 PM #2
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12-12-2019, 05:15 PM #3Registered User
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Good to hear it's not the straps and that I can put the pairs back together in the quiver. I'm just stacking singles over here worried I'm fucking things up. They're a few seasons old and I bought them here for a sweet deal, so I can't complain too much. I'm sure the holes I drilled in both ends also void any warranty out there, unfortunately.
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12-12-2019, 05:29 PM #4
Can we get a full side profile shot of the messed up ski?
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12-12-2019, 06:34 PM #5
Did you store them all summer long in a shed that got up to 150 degrees in the sun? I have no idea what can do that to a ski other than a serious temperature excursion...
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12-12-2019, 06:47 PM #6Registered User
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Main killers would be large temperature swings or prolonged exposure to moisture. How/where did you store them?
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12-12-2019, 09:35 PM #7Registered User
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Not a case of wild temperature swings or humidity. They were in my apartment in a corner of the room on a rack with lots of other skis that have no visible issues. I’ll post a full rocker pic tomorrow.
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12-12-2019, 10:03 PM #8
Have you mounted multiple different bindings on them and if so how were the holes plugged? If water gets in and rots the core I could imagine the ski cracking under foot causing it to flatten out there. Also the bindings in them now... if you pull the screws are any of them rusted?
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12-12-2019, 11:10 PM #9
It is possible you stuffed the ski hard at the end of last season, and bent it without noticing?
The fact that the bend starts right in front of the toe piece is rather solid evidence.Last edited by 1000-oaks; 12-13-2019 at 07:45 AM.
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12-13-2019, 05:41 AM #10
I had a pair do that after being on car ski rack. I bought a box. Really windy on way to mammoth and rocker caught. But that’s all I got.
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12-13-2019, 05:53 AM #11
WHAT HAPPENED TO MY HELIO 105S
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12-13-2019, 07:19 AM #12
Ditto. It could be the wood used for the core wasn't cured properly. When wood dries it shrinks, and would make that tip pull back.
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12-13-2019, 07:52 AM #13
"the tip makes contact just in front of the binding."
BD could cut the ski in half at that bend and check the core for water rot, but iit doesn't really sound like a warranty issue. Is the bend in front of the toe, or under the toe where the holes are? Two mounts? It is a lightweight touring ski, unfortunately.
Hopefully BD has a used single they can send for the cost of shipping or a low "crash replacement" price.
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12-13-2019, 10:16 AM #14
You should reach out to this guy:
https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanche/48690
And see if you can get his (now solo) Helio105
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01-30-2022, 10:58 AM #15Minion
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This has happened to my 2017 Helio Carbon 95. Stored in my unattached garage, so heat was likely a contributor but I feel like then it should have affected both skis.
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01-30-2022, 11:51 AM #16
Those look beat to fucking death for 30 days.
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