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12-10-2019, 05:09 PM #26Registered User
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12-11-2019, 04:15 AM #27
This is the truth, right here. Lot's of truth in this thread, actually. Energy bars taste like shit and contain no magic ingredients. They aren't nutritionally superior to candy bars, really.
Protein is best eaten afterward exertion for recovery and repair. And fat, while tasty and energy dense, tends to delay gastric emptying. I don't go out of the way to avoid it, but I do limit it.
If you're actively exercising, you want something that digests easily and relatively quickly. Personally, I'm a little prone to insulin spikes and crashes, so I tend to go for stuff that has some fiber in it too. And, since it's going to be eaten on the go, packability is key too. So, I'm a big fan of some of the higher fiber bagels and english muffins, along with a or two.
Let the self-righteous health zealots and dentists-who-don't-know-no-better (bless their hearts) keep all the energy bar companies in business; we don't need 'em.
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12-11-2019, 05:24 AM #28Registered User
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There just has to be a better no processed sugar, less processed ingredients alternative out there than snickers bars... I understand that you get quick calories and good sugar from them, but they fuck up your health in general. The whole nutrition thread talks about the benefits of eating healthily and avoiding processed foods, but everyone is eating snickers going up the hill?!
The new no sugar added clif bars that are figs or dates (?), nuts, some have chocolate, are my new go to bars for outings. Plenty of NATURAL sugar that can propel me up the hill, or I just bring trail mix with plenty of nuts and seeds + some dried fruits and maybe some dark chocolate. I try to avoid meat just for environmental reasons.
Also homemade bars are a plenty good alternative and easily cheaper than snickers or clif bars+ no fucking plastic that is choking our planet.
Food processor with some dried figs, a few chia seeds, and spices of your choice. Ground them up and then add in nuts and or chocolate. You can put them in individual packages, freeze em, try to bake them with chocolate on top, eat them right away, give them as gifts, etc.
Im not going to lie... i cannot support snickers as a good alternative for fuel up the mountain.
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12-11-2019, 06:11 AM #29
What is ‘processed’ food and what makes it unhealthy? Actually, why don’t we figure out what ‘unhealthy’ and ‘healthy’ actually means?
How does eating a snickers fuck up my body in the long term?
Also added sugar is still natural and a great source of rapidly available energy when you need it. There is a reason we developed a taste for it over a few hundred thousand years of evolution.
What makes nature’s chemical experiments inherently healthier for human consumption than a laboratory’s?
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12-11-2019, 07:04 AM #30Registered User
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12-11-2019, 07:32 AM #31
This is a great thread.
I'm always on the go and I don't have time to fill up a bottle with water, so what type of prepackaged water should I buy, because I'm always on the go? It should be expensive so I can brag about how great it is, but not too expensive because of don't want people to think I'm only a dentist.
And since I'm always on the go, what type of electrolyte powder should I add to my prepackaged water, since I'm always on the go? It should be expensive so I can brag about how great it is, but not too expensive because of don't want people to think I'm only a dentist.
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12-11-2019, 07:34 AM #32
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12-11-2019, 10:23 AM #33Registered User
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On a trip to Moab this fall a Chiropracter (fresh out of dentists eh ?) on the trip recommended Magnesium citrate for recovery she had some so I tried it and the stuff works so i got my own jar of the stuff but only use it after big days
I refill them pre-packaged water bottles and store em in the frig to grab because they are super light and I don't care if one goes missing ( so they never go missing )
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12-11-2019, 10:34 AM #34
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12-11-2019, 10:35 AM #35
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12-11-2019, 10:46 AM #36Registered User
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I throw a concentrated mix of Tang and a preworkout in a small 8oz bottle. When i need the boost, i just down the whole bottle in one go. Drinking water comes from the bladder in my pack.
As for bars, i just use clif bars or grab a couple snickers on the way. no need to get fancy, scientific, or crafty.
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12-11-2019, 11:17 AM #37
Mag citrate is also a semi-miracle cure for hangovers.
+1 on meat and cheese snacks. Fats & salt balance out the carbs nicely on long days.
Ms Boissal is packing these soft flasks she fills with PB and honey for instant carb loading. I keep stealing them out of her pack, they work great.
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12-11-2019, 11:28 AM #38Registered User
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Didnt know that ^^ I think Magnesium Citrate can also give you the runs so be careful
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12-11-2019, 11:36 AM #39
I'd argue that something like a Larabar is demonstrably healthier than a Snickers. Whether that maters at all in this context is quite debatable, though, and everything else in this post is largely spot on. Ideally you want mostly glucose, a little protein to prevent muscle catabolism on efforts longer than 2 hours, and a little fat to improve palatability.
The rules are different when you're talking about actively fueling caloricly-intensive activities.
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12-11-2019, 11:40 AM #40
Love me some Snickers, especially peanut butter. I try to buy an extra bag or two the day after Halloween at half price.
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12-11-2019, 11:58 AM #41
This is why I like perfect bars. More calories, fiber, and protein, less bullshit that you would find in a snickers like trans fat. Much more expensive but I’m not gonna bitch about the cost of something that’s only $2. Plus I’m gluten intolerant so there’s that too.
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12-11-2019, 12:08 PM #42
A snickers bar is going to fuck up your health? Lighten up, Francis.
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12-11-2019, 12:10 PM #43
No hydrogenated oils currently in Snickers, and they're gluten-free. Not much bullshit in a Snickers, really: https://www.google.com/search?client...rs+ingredients
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12-11-2019, 12:27 PM #44
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12-11-2019, 12:45 PM #45Banned
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btw I was a bit miffed about the thought that larabars were "healthier" than a snickers.
Go do some interneting....you'll see they are damn close and in some cases larabars have more calories
and get this....snickers has about 4 more carbs than the larabar....
YMMV...ill stick with tasty snickers too.
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12-11-2019, 01:25 PM #48
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12-11-2019, 01:43 PM #49
zzz pointed me to these:
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/24...ut-date-balls/
Made a few times for biking/touring and def hit the spot.
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12-11-2019, 01:45 PM #50Registered User
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Ingredients of a snickers bar,“milk chocolate (sugar, cocoa butter, chocolate, skim milk, lactose, milkfat, soy lecithin, artificial flavor), peanuts, corn syrup, sugar, palm oil, skim milk, lactose, salt, egg whites, artificial flavor.”
Im still not a fan of this lineup. Anything that has corn syrup and just “sugar” is a no go for me. Also palm oil...
In comparison the Lara bar in front of me has, “cashews, dates, apples, blueberries, vanilla extract.”
The Whole Lotta Clif Bar has “date paste, pumpkin seeds, almonds, cashew butter, pea protein, sesame seeds, coconut, virgin coconut oil, sea salt, natural flavors, cinnamon, ground ginger, cloves, rosemary extract, nutmeg”.
Both are gluten free, have more fiber than snickers, have only a few grams less of carbs, and close to equal amount of calories. Sugar levels are slightly lower but mainly due to the fact that these have neither corn syrup nor any added sugars. That’s fine by me.
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