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  1. #1
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    Borrowing skins from a fatter ski

    Long story short, a friend has the skins for my rock touring skis. Planning on using the skins from my wide skis for a day and just letting it flap on the sides. What kind of harm will it cause to the skin? Obviously won't be able to use edge of the ski for the skin up but not too worried about that

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    You will die.

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    yep, certain death is assured.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by m2711c View Post
    yep, certain death is assured.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Notyourtocayo View Post
    You will die.
    You guys are so predictable

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    It will suck. Really, really suck.

    Post a TR.
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Sounds like a good way to ruin the skins, depending on how long and what kind of terrain you are touring. Metal edges on nylon backing doesn't sound like a good combo.

    But for sure post a TR and let us know.

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    Stop being a pussy, and just use your regular skis.
    "Its not the arrow, its the Indian" - M.Pinto

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    Make sure you dry them out good after. Snow will build up on the sides where the glue is exposed the can shorten the life of the glue.
    That is.... if you don’t die first...

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    Before you start your day, lay the skins flat on the ground, hold the top and tail with a brick or rock etc. Pour a light coating of gasoline the entire length of the skin. You’ll be fine then, no edge adhesion.

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    I doubt the skins will be seriously damaged (apart from extra pine needles etc, right at the edge - the worst possible place), but the user actually could die, i suppose, if skinning some steep side hill on firm snow, that happens to have bad consequences.

    Otherwise: no probs, probs. But it will suck at some point, most likely.

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    Back in the day when skis were just getting crazy fat( we are talking sumo's and leather tele boots) i was on a week long hit trip with guy who did this and it seemed ok, he was a bit curmudgeonly so I didn't say anything, so ime it probably will not damage the skins if only for a day,
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    i was on a week long hit trip
    How do you even remember?

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    Well buddy jogged my memory, this was back before people trimmed skins cuz all skis were 67 mm wide
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Sounds like you need another pair of skis.
    Its not that I suck at spelling, its that I just don't care

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    If you insist on doing this... then make sure you take a big roll of athletic tape and a bunch of voile straps with you because skins will not stick for very long.

    Athletic tape is the surprising best fix for taping on skins after glue failure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak_powder_monkey View Post
    Sounds like you need another pair of skis.
    Ah, why didn't I think of that. Obviously the best solution

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    If you insist on doing this... then make sure you take a big roll of athletic tape and a bunch of voile straps with you because skins will not stick for very long.

    Athletic tape is the surprising best fix for taping on skins after glue failure.
    Agree with this 100% - including cloth athletic tape being the best

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    Tried a bunch of whacky skin arrangements over the years. The fat skin/skinny ski thing presented the following issues, none which were total disasters or deal breakers but some compromise was experienced.

    1. no effect on exposed skin/glue during truly clean, cold, winter snow ski touring...at least if yer not bushwhacking and bashing tree trunks, alders, and blueberry bushes. using them through a long spring/early summer season contaminated the exposed glue and forced the tree needle, mud, lichen and other forest gunk past the contact point of edge inwards a bit. easy fix though with a hot gun/scrape/reglue of the affected areas.

    2. compromised side edge grip while sidehilling on firm wind buff/styrofoam and other hard surface conditions like rain crust...that really sucked. but that inspired the idea and fabrication of built in skin crampon 'grip strips' so it was a case of short term 'lose', long term, game changing 'win'.

    3. better overall skin traction in non #2 snow conditions

    4. unlike other user experiences, i found that the skins stuck just fine, most of the time. some snow conditions like cold, loose, facets seemed to force snow between skins/skis at tips and tails more frequently than properly cut skins but not to the point of catastrophic skin failure.
    Master of mediocrity.

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