Going from Marker Griffons to Barons

[Swandog]

Considering making the switch from Marker Griffons to Barons for the intermittent side country trips. Questions:

1. Will the increased stack height make a noticeable difference?

2. I’ve come across a few posts that mention the frame bindings creating a dead spot. Is this a legit concern? Skiing on Black Crows Camox, a lighter ski to begin with.

Would love to go with the Shifts, but bought a new pair of alpine boots just before they came out. Not having inserts sucks.

[XXX-er]

You will get a nose bleed from the increased stack height

But seriously I have a couple pair I use in bounds becuz they came on used skis and no problems here

I do have real touring setup's and in comparison to these are heavey as fuck especially on a heavey ski with Alpine bbots

[stuckathuntermtn]

You MAY notice some stack height. Doubtful on the dead spot since you already have one.

[lemonhead]

Everyone's results may vary, and to me the stack hight was a big negative and the slop after 50 days or so was pretty weak. I would avoid the old duke or barron if possible.

[MMMSKI]

I don’t think you will notice the stack height...

[SkiLyft]

Stack height was negligible— what I noticed more was how the frame altered the flex profile of the ski.


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[Swandog]

Stack height was negligible— what I noticed more was how the frame altered the flex profile of the ski.

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How significant was the change in flex?

[toast2266]

I noticed both the stack height and the dead spot (and the slop in the binding). The question is whether you care? Do those downsides outweigh your desire to walk uphill?

[SkiLyft]

How significant was the change in flex?

Depends on ski. Super stout flexing ski likely won’t notice but something with a much more round flex you will most certainly notice. Again the do you care question comes into play.


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[Mantequilla270]

it will take some getting used to, weight will probably be the biggest difference. assuming youre not doing too many hard pressed nosebutters on these skis