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11-22-2019, 10:47 AM #26
Footbeds aren’t a one size fits all or even a one approach fits all.
What works for a ski boot (ridge outsole and mid sole relatively light loading) might not work well for a hiking/hunting boot (flexible sole and heavier loads)
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11-22-2019, 12:46 PM #27
Off the shelf (OTS) inserts can fit as well as custom orthotics when properly fit. There are several factors to consider when purchasing OTS inserts.
A few years ago I wrote a pretty detailed thread on this subject, but cannot find it.
IMHO, Superfeet is the king of OTS inserts. They are easily modified and last for years.Ski Shop - Basement of the Hostel
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11-22-2019, 10:40 PM #28
Not crazy about the rock hard plastic sub-frame or only two real arch height options, but they work for many feet. The relatively high heel wrap doesn't always work for wide heels or midfeet. Pretty much all trim-to-fits can be modified by an experienced bootfitter - examples are using a size larger than needed to move the arch forward, grinding the sidewall of the footbed to reduce pinching, selectively thinning the footbed under the ball of the foot, etc.
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11-22-2019, 10:46 PM #29
Hey Steve, good to see you back.
That is my experience as well; the guy who has a degree and charges $500 for custom orthotics and the guy with a high school education who's built hundreds of custom ski footbeds are both giving you their "best guess" option. Some people in each group have a higher success rate than others.
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11-22-2019, 10:57 PM #30Registered User
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^This. My experience is not in boot fitting, but there is only so much that can be done with Superfeet. I use Vasyli products weekly with my clients and love that I can get a nice custom fit in less than 5 minutes in a product that will ultimately last longer. Not knocking Superfeet, they work for lots of people. But there are superior products out there, especially for those with unusual foot anatomy or biomechanics.
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11-24-2019, 02:36 PM #31
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11-24-2019, 08:05 PM #32
My ex, who is picky AF, liked Superfeet
OTOH, Gunner at Granite Chief made me some Amfit footbeds in 1999 that I’m still using.
Both ways can work. How much trial and error do folks wanna do vs. working with an experienced hand?
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11-25-2019, 07:35 PM #33Registered User
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I went to a store in Vancover that had all the brands of off-the-rack insoles on the wall with several staff to help you buy them
but nobody telling you that their product was the only path to enlightenmentLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-27-2019, 01:58 PM #34
One great thing about trim-to-fit footbeds is you can stand on a number of options and choose the one that feels the best, while the effectiveness of every custom footbed, regardless of brand and molding apparatus, relies on the skill and experience level of the person molding and finishing it. Keep in mind that stock footbeds often feel different when trimmed down to fit in your ski boot (they will invariably be narrower and shorter). If you are "on the fence" between two brands or two heights, pick the one that feels more "natural" - i.e. you don't "feel" the support in an obvious or localized way.
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12-04-2019, 08:04 AM #35Registered User
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I've never thought about footbeds other than the stock options they come with. I just always thought everyone dealt with the foot pain. My feet only hurt in ski boots when I'm standing still. I don't recall them hurting on the up or the downhill.
After reading this thread I'm going to stop by my shop this weekend to look into footbeds. That being said, I have a pair of shoes that hurt my arch occasionally. Maybe I should look into footbeds for my other day, hiking, work, etc. shoes. I've never felt any pain in my stock footbed Altra running shoes.
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12-04-2019, 09:28 AM #36Registered User
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Just rembered these
https://luxis.com/product/featherspr...mpression-kit/
My father used to walk 10km a night around the warehouse at a big steel plant and he had sore feet so he seen the add in a national enquirer and answered the add ... he swore by the feathersprings
made out of stainless steelLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-04-2019, 12:11 PM #37Registered User
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Gretch is right on this. If you're using insoles to stop your feet from sliding around in your boots your fit is messed up to start with. Doesn't matter if it's a ski boot, running shoe, or climbing boot. Yeah you can take up volume with a insole, but again then you might have started with the wrong sized boot.
Also Glade you're correct in that they shouldn't fit the same, and the insole style shouldn't be the same either. But still if you're trying to fix your feet from sliding around with insoles, you're already down the wrong path.
Do not waste your money on anything "gel" they don't actually help your feet and can actually cause more movement making your foot more tired.TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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