WTB: 185+ Touring Ski

[Cozzey]

Hey there,

I’m looking to buy a touring ski, 185cm+, 100mm+ waist to pair with my Kartel 108s. I think I am going to mount them both up with quiver killers for a Dynafit beast 14, unless someone convinced me otherwise?

Maybe do a 115 touring ski and then put alpine bindings on the Kartels? Not sure... I would appreciate some advice on this one hah.

I’m really looking for a ski that I can do some mountaineering on this winter, it needs to be stiff and sturdy on the downhill, a few extra grams uphill isn’t the end of the world since I’m used to touring with Tyrolia Adrenalin and Blizzard Rustler 11. Honestly a similar waist profile to the Kartels may be kind of nice because then I can just use the skins for both? Lazy approach I know...

Let me know if you have any advice! Maybe some 4frnt Hojis from Sterbenz?? 6’1 so I’m not willing to go below 185cm.

Thanks ski addicts.

[rangerjake]

NEW 2018 Volkl BMT 122 (186)
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=330530

[kirkg8]

I have a set of 192 black diamond Zealots in great shape with one mount. 125 plus shipping and they are yours


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[Cozzey]

NEW 2018 Volkl BMT 122 (186)
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=330530

I appreciate it but for that price I’d rather get Hojis

[rangerjake]

I appreciate it but for that price I’d rather get Hojis

Sounds like you have a price point in mind. Maybe you should include that in your ISO memoir. More helpful to keep offers relevant to your specific needs.

[Cozzey]

Sounds like you have a price point in mind. Maybe you should include that in your ISO memoir. More helpful to keep offers relevant to your specific needs.

Somewhere around $500. Im also not looking for a 122 waist touring ski, but thanks.

[rangerjake]

lol. $500, $525 shipped. Not 122. But 115.

No worries, even with the parameters I still would have offered it.

Happy hunting!

[yellofin]

lol. $500, $525 shipped. Not 122. But 115.

No worries, even with the parameters I still would have offered it.

Happy hunting!

You’re coming off a little bit desperate

[huckster989]

187 carbon fat Bros you know you want to them. If you can't use the plates the hole pattern is spread out so you have plenty of room for a fresh mount. 9.8 lbs for the set with plates in case your wondering

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...n-Fat-Bros-187

[Hugh Jaynus]

186 Armada Kufo with Kingpins and skins $400 ready to go

[Jimi_Lee]

Just an opinion....but...

While a lot people have had success with quiver killers, there are also a lot of stories of quiver killers pulling out. They are a workable solution. QK or helicoils or thread inserts are not meant to be screwed/unscrewed over many cycles which can cause the connection b/w ski-to-thread insert to wear out.

In my opinion, a better solution would be mounting your Kartels with a binding like the Shift or a Cast system. That gives you the good release/safety of an alpine binding with the better touring performance of a pin binding.

(Full disclosure: I have a set of CAST plates for sale. I had a pair of skis with dynafits and a pair with alpine bindings and bought them for the reasons above so both skis would be set to tour. Then decided that was too redundant)

[STLHD]

[QUOTE=Jimi_Lee;5802909]Just an opinion....but...

While a lot people have had success with quiver killers, there are also a lot of stories of quiver killers pulling out. They are a workable solution. QK or helicoils or thread inserts are not meant to be screwed/unscrewed over many cycles which can cause the connection b/w ski-to-thread insert to wear out.
/QUOTE]

Are there lots of stories? I haven’t heard of many, if any, issue on properly installed QKs.

[thefortrees]

Just an opinion....but...

While a lot people have had success with quiver killers, there are also a lot of stories of quiver killers pulling out. They are a workable solution. QK or helicoils or thread inserts are not meant to be screwed/unscrewed over many cycles which can cause the connection b/w ski-to-thread insert to wear )

Huh? I’ve Never heard stories of inserts pulling out. I’ve run inserts in many pairs over many many swaps with no issues...

[rangerjake]

You’re coming off a little bit desperate

Am I? Please please please buy my skis. PUHHHLEEEZE. I think that sounds a little bit desperate.

Actually just appointing some snark to a JONG here to field offers on deals from mags and when he gets a credible offer that is literally at his own acknowledged parameters that he feels qualified to throw shade on the asking price. Easily can say "No thanks, looking for a little narrower than 122". Boom, done.

Anyway, thanks for chiming in. Valuable opinion.

[rocca]

I have some 190 G3 Carbon Empire 115's collecting dust that I could part with. One mount for Ions at 314 plus one f-ed heel mount on one ski that is plugged. $250? In Denver if that helps.

[CascadeLuke]

For what it’s worth- would rather ski BMT 122 over Hoji. Especially at 5hundy

[Cozzey]

Am I? Please please please buy my skis. PUHHHLEEEZE. I think that sounds a little bit desperate.

Actually just appointing some snark to a JONG here to field offers on deals from mags and when he gets a credible offer that is literally at his own acknowledged parameters that he feels qualified to throw shade on the asking price. Easily can say "No thanks, looking for a little narrower than 122". Boom, done.

Anyway, thanks for chiming in. Valuable opinion.

Alright team I’m just trying to buy some skis... I apologize for any tension I may have made.

[Cozzey]

I have some 190 G3 Carbon Empire 115's collecting dust that I could part with. One mount for Ions at 314 plus one f-ed heel mount on one ski that is plugged. $250? In Denver if that helps.

What do these skis ride like?? Ive just never even considered a G3 ski in my life before so I have no knowledge of them.

[Jimi_Lee]

Huh? I’ve Never heard stories of inserts pulling out. I’ve run inserts in many pairs over many many swaps with no issues...

Not trying to start anything. I don't personally have experience with QK and don't know many who use them. I did consider them and tried to do my research. Then decided to go a different route.

Regardless, I have met more than 1 person who had them pull out. These aren't people I know and hang out with. Maybe they were full of S**t. Maybe the inserts were installed incorrectly. They did all pay to have a shop install them, so maybe they should have mounted their own F*ing bindings.

Just trying to relay what I have heard to another mag. Take it for what its worth.

[rocca]

What do these skis ride like?? Ive just never even considered a G3 ski in my life before so I have no knowledge of them.

There are a few threads on here if you dig around a bit. I like them a lot but only put a few days on them - good float, can charge and be nimble/playful (reverse camber), and pretty light/stiff for their size and purpose. Basically they're reverse camber with a pintail design. Only reason I switched is I have another pow touring rig that overlaps these and I'm 5'8" haha. Wish I could speak to them more but hopefully that helps. Also, it's actually 1.5 mounts on each ski (poor memory) so I could knock it down to $200.

[smokeyslc]

I have these old things. Fun ski actually
$125 plus shipping?

[smokeyslc]

I also have these not so old things.

$250 plus shipping.

[volklpowdermaniac]

186 volkl nanutaq,
Full but subtle rocker,
One mount for dynafit
107 underfoot.

Great shape, toured about 10 days.

PM if interested

[1000-oaks]

Heard of inserts unthreading from ski if they weren't degreased prior to install, but never pulling out.

[Dee Hubbs]

Regardless, I have met more than 1 person who had them pull out. These aren't people I know and hang out with. Maybe they were full of S**t. Maybe the inserts were installed incorrectly. They did all pay to have a shop install them, so maybe they should have mounted their own F*ing bindings.

I have an old thread somewhere where I tried to pull the inserts out of a blown sidewall ski. I stood on the skis and put a 4 foot crow bar on the screw head and could not pull out the inserts with all my weight bouncing on the bar. Constant prying, shock hits to the pry bar, I could not get a single one to budge. I have read a lot about spinners, even then you usually can pull a spinner out past the top sheet it has thread through. FYI these are skis without metal in them.