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Thread: Rural living - the reality check
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11-05-2019, 12:41 PM #51
Doing the rural burning-up-vehicles mode, I used to always have a beater I drove the wheels off of, and something nicer and more reliable I saved for important trips and traveling and stuff.
That was a good system. Would recommend.
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11-05-2019, 12:43 PM #52
and the def. of rural is anything that isn't inside the city according to the US Gov.
I have relatives that live in rural TX. They have a RR addy and if they want to call me on their cell they have to go outside and stand in the road. Population 250.
I'm rural but have good internet/cell reception. No gas lines, no cable. Fire is all volly. You can't have a lot smaller than 10 acres. Overall county population outside of the city limits is roughly 8K.
I have neighbors who own lots by me that are their "country get away on the river" and they are far worse than anyone who actually lives out here. They use their property to store aka dump all their crap like sailboats, RVs, old cars and when they come out they spend all their time racing around on ATVs raising a racket. At least they leave on Monday and aren't always here.“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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11-05-2019, 12:46 PM #53
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11-05-2019, 12:47 PM #54“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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11-05-2019, 12:49 PM #55"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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11-05-2019, 12:49 PM #56Registered User
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I live 2 blks off main street, I can ride a bike or walk everywhere, its a 5 minute walk to the bars, restaurants, food stores, if I had kids of that age they could walk to school/scouts/dance/brownies/ the library everything without me, city trucks pick up the garbage, plow the road, I do a little yard maintenance with a lawnmower/ weedeater/ snow blower, I am under the town fire protection, people want to give me money to live in my basement suite (not so out of town) , if I want to sell the place its pretty easy ... all in all being a townie is pretty cheap/pretty simple
whereas if i was out of town I would driving everywhere, if i was a family of 4 it would mean 2 cars and all the expenses,
once you got kids they have activities so you become the shuttle driver for all their activities which takes time & money
Rural means wells/ septic fields/or sewage lagoons/ shitty interent so if/when any of it doesnt work its fucking expensive, maybe you gotta join the voly fire dept, you pay for or drop off your own garbage collection, you plow your own road or long driveway so do you need to buy a tractor OR do you pay a guy to do it for ya,
I used to spend 2 hrs snowblowing out the driveway at a place where I was kind of caretaking/renting a room, the quad with blade was faster and kinda fun but it was way mo expensive for the owner
rural properties tend to be a bigger hassle to sell and take longer,
A ski bud i see at the bar has one beer and he is done cuz he has to drive and a DUI would suck
A paddle bud told me yeah that funky little cabin 1/2 an hr from town is only 350$ a month for the mortgage but my fuel bill to get inot town is 600 a month so its really costing me 950 a month plus more vehical maintenace , he moved to town just as soon as he could afford it and is way happier
A ski bud moved into town from not that far out but he said with 2 small kids and a real job, being in town with no maintenace, no travel just makes the difference allowing him enough time to get up the hill for some turns to keep him sane
Another bud was divorced, lived way the fuck out there, the teenaged daughter basicly fired mom and went to live in town with her father and it was all about the inconvience of the rural life, I see a lot of people move in when they have kids but then a lot of people move out cuz they think rural living will be cool ... good for RE agents I guess
So these are all the reasons I can think of why moving out sucks, i personaly can't think of any reason why I personaly want to be out of town, when I was out of town with probably the best view in town after 5 years I never looked at it, but to sum it up ... rural costs more, uses up your time, is more inconvienent
why do you think you want to live rural, can you stay out there or do you need to come in every day??
maybe you could google up some old episodes of green acres ?Last edited by XXX-er; 11-05-2019 at 01:11 PM.
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11-05-2019, 01:03 PM #57
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11-05-2019, 01:19 PM #58
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11-05-2019, 01:21 PM #59“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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11-05-2019, 01:28 PM #60
Ummmm.....no. One place has a full accompaniment of municipal services, the other does not. Those are "factual things." When your little town can barely keep its hospital open, has no maternity ward and specialists are an hours drive away, that's your reality, not an opinion. When you are out in the snow with a chainsaw cutting fallen aspens out of the road because no one else is doing it for you, that's not a matter of "self-identification." It's just a fucking fact of your life.
Furthermore, when your child wants to go to a good college and now he is at a disadvantage because you sent him to a mediocre public school full of bible thumping teachers and mutton head farm kids, well, now you've gone and made it a permanent fact of his life too.
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11-05-2019, 01:39 PM #61
So the cabin in the middle of farm country an hour away from the city isn't rural? Because not much of that shit applies to it. And the people that live there think they are rural and act like it. They've got bears who raid the trash, meth-heads that steal shit, but it's close enough to the city to have people with "real" money and "real" jobs.
Now, sure, what you said definitely applies to the middle of fucking nowhere mountain west. But that's not everywhere in the US, nor is it everywhere in the rural US or Canada.
Hence my answer of "self-identification".
And thank's for proving the bottom line extremely correct.
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11-05-2019, 01:40 PM #62
Rural area
In general, a rural area or countryside is a geographic area that is located outside towns and cities.[1] The Health Resources and Services Administration of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services defines the word rural as encompassing "...all population, housing, and territory not included within an urban area. Whatever is not urban is considered rural."[2]
Typical rural areas have a low population density and small settlements. Agricultural areas are commonly rural, as are other types of areas such as forest. Different countries have varying definitions of rural for statistical and administrative purposes.
United States
Main article: Rural areas in the United States
84% of the United States' inhabitants live in suburban and urban areas,[3] but cities occupy only 10 percent of the country. Rural areas (villages) occupy the remaining 90 percent. The U.S. Census Bureau, the USDA's Economic Research Service, and the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) have come together to help define rural areas. United States Census Bureau: The Census Bureau definitions (new to the 2000 census), which are based on population density, defines rural areas as all territory outside Census Bureau-defined urbanized areas and urban clusters.
An urbanized area consists of a central surrounding areas whose population ("urban nucleus") is greater than 50,000. They may or may not contain individual cities with 50,000 or more; rather, they must have a core with a population density generally exceeding 1,000 persons per square mile; and may contain adjoining territory with at least 500 persons per square mile (other towns outside an urbanized area whose population exceeds 2,500).
Thus, rural areas comprise open country and settlements with fewer than 2,500 residents; areas designated as rural can have population densities as high as 999 per square mile or as low as 1 person per square mile.[4]
USDA
The USDA's Office of Rural Development may define rural by various population thresholds. The 2002 farm bill (P.L. 107-171, Sec. 6020) defined rural and rural area as any area other than (1) a city or town that has a population of greater than 50,000 inhabitants, and (2) the urbanized areas contiguous and adjacent to such a city or town.
The rural-urban continuum codes, urban influence code, and rural county typology codes developed by USDA's Economic Research Service (ERS) allow researchers to break out the standard metropolitan and non-metropolitan areas into smaller residential groups.[4] For example, a metropolitan county is one that contains an urbanized area, or one that has a twenty-five percent commuter rate to an urbanized area regardless of population.
OMB:
Under the Core Based Statistical Areas used by the OMB (commonly referred to as 'CBSA Codes'),[5]
a metropolitan county, or Metropolitan Statistical Area,(MSA) consists of (1) central counties with one or more urbanized areas (as defined by the Census Bureau) and (2) outlying counties that are economically tied to the core counties as measured by worker commuting data (i.e. if 25% of workers living there commute to the core counties, or if 25% of the employment in the county consists of workers coming from the central counties).
Non-metro counties are outside the boundaries of metro areas and are further subdivided into Micropolitan Statistical Areas centered on urban clusters of 10,000–50,000 residents, and all remaining non-core counties.[4][6]
In 2014, the USDA updated their rural / non-rural area definitions based on the 2010 Census counts.[5]
Rural schools
National Center for Education Statistics (NCES) revised its definition of rural schools in 2006 after working with the Census Bureau to create a new locale classification system to capitalize on improved geocoding technology.
Rural health
Rural health definitions can be different for establishing under-served areas or health care accessibility in rural areas of the United States. According to the handbook, Definitions of Rural: A Handbook for Health Policy Makers and Researchers, "Residents of metropolitan counties are generally thought to have easy access to the relatively concentrated health services of the county's central areas. However, some metropolitan counties are so large that they contain small towns and rural, sparsely populated areas that are isolated from these central clusters and their corresponding health services by physical barriers." To address this type of rural area, "Harold Goldsmith, Dena Puskin, and Dianne Stiles (1992) described a methodology to identify small towns and rural areas within large metropolitan counties (LMCs) that were isolated from central areas by distance or other physical features." This became the Goldsmith Modification definition of rural. "Bhoomeet rural education The Goldsmith Modification has been useful for expanding the eligibility for federal programs that assist rural populations—to include the isolated rural populations of large metropolitan counties."
Health care delivery in rural areas of the United States can be challenging. From 2005-2011, the rate of potentially preventable hospitalizations for acute conditions was highest in rural areas (as compared to large metropolitan, small metropolitan, or micropolitan areas).[7]
“When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis
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11-05-2019, 01:47 PM #63
This ^ is the most understated issue in this thread to me. OP wants kids. When your life becomes about what’s best for your kids school systems take top priority (they should).
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11-05-2019, 01:48 PM #64
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11-05-2019, 01:51 PM #65
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11-05-2019, 01:53 PM #66
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11-05-2019, 01:58 PM #67Registered User
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around here you are either inside the town or village limits or in the regional district, I think going rural costs more in any case how much is the life style worth to you ?
locally I have seen lots of kids go to uni and lots of kids do not very much, livivng on the edge of Canada is not the limiting factorLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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11-05-2019, 02:01 PM #68
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11-05-2019, 02:06 PM #69Registered User
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11-05-2019, 02:40 PM #70
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11-05-2019, 02:55 PM #72
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11-05-2019, 04:03 PM #73It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.
I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.
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11-05-2019, 04:42 PM #74
Yeah, definitely not "shoot your dog" rural.
ALR is definitely a big consideration. If the property you're looking at is in it make sure you thoroughly understand your property rights and restrictions.
If you want peace and quiet, proximity to the Air Force base is something to think about.
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11-05-2019, 04:56 PM #75Registered User
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I think anywhere you don't control your dog around livestock it might get a case of lead poisoning
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