Really Backcountry.com??

[stuckathuntermtn]

Do you know what a hedge fund is?

Are you asking someone whose dad worked for Goldman Sachs if they know what private equity management is?

Am I just off base here? I thought they were owned by a hedge fund, certainly not VC, and not the same group that owns K2.

[Conundrum]

They're owned by some hedge fund. this is the world we live in.

Are you asking someone whose dad worked for Goldman Sachs if they know what private equity management is?

Am I just off base here? I thought they were owned by a hedge fund, certainly not VC, and not the same group that owns K2.

Hedge funds typically work in securities. Read-liquid assets that are generally publicly traded. PE money typically works in privately held businesses. Not nearly as liquid, not publicly traded. But the son of a dad who works for GS would know that. TSG is the PE firm that owns BC.com. If you look at their portfolio of other companies (not stocks or funds) under ownership, you will see a lot of companies you might be familiar with...like PBR, the beer.

I'm sure there are people who could explain it better than me. Call your dad and have him login to give us the Goldman Sachs definition.

[PNWbrit]

Are you asking someone whose dad worked for Goldman Sachs

^ what a really great call out.

[ExPowderSnob]

I never realized competitivecyclist and steep&cheep are also part of that conglomerate... two more websites to never visit...

[telemon10]

So they're the Specialized of the outdoor retail market? Good to know...

Oh shit, what did Specialized do? You mean I have to sell my mtb now to feel good about myself?

[Conundrum]

^^^^ They sued Stumptown Coffee in Portland and the Portland bike shops didn't take kindly to it.

[telemon10]

^^^^ They sued Stumptown Coffee in Portland and the Portland bike shops didn't take kindly to it.

Christ. At least I don't own a Stumpjumper anymore, but riding my Camber 29er just won't be the same. At least they're not trying to trademark the word camber.

[Conundrum]

^ what a really great call out.

Careful dude. His dad might beat your dad up.

[Kopi_Red]

Christ. At least I don't own a Stumpjumper anymore, but riding my Camber 29er just won't be the same. At least they're not trying to trademark the word camber yet.

FIFY

[AK47bp]

Are you asking someone whose dad worked for Goldman Sachs if they know what private equity management is?

That’s gold.

I’m using this when someone questions me on anything.



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[toast2266]

Oh shit, what did Specialized do? You mean I have to sell my mtb now to feel good about myself?

Specialized has done a bunch of dumb "trademark enforcement" type actions. The biggest one I remember was going after a small coffee shop in Canada called Cafe Roubaix. Because Specialized has a bike called the Roubaix. A bike that's named after the famous Paris-Roubaix bike race. Which, of course, is named after the towns in France where it starts (Paris) and ends (Roubaix).

https://www.velonews.com/2013/12/bik...e-brand_310878

[Iowagriz]

Revelate bikepacking bags were originally Epic Bags. Specialized went after them for "Epic". Thus the eventual name change to Revelate Designs

[telemon10]

Specialized has done a bunch of dumb "trademark enforcement" type actions. The biggest one I remember was going after a small coffee shop in Canada called Cafe Roubaix. Because Specialized has a bike called the Roubaix. A bike that's named after the famous Paris-Roubaix bike race. Which, of course, is named after the towns in France where it starts (Paris) and ends (Roubaix).

https://www.velonews.com/2013/12/bik...e-brand_310878

Well, Specialized sucks too then. Not sure how I missed all that, but let's not hijack this thread away from the peckerheads at Backcountry.com.

[jackattack]

Specialized has done a bunch of dumb "trademark enforcement" type actions. The biggest one I remember was going after a small coffee shop in Canada called Cafe Roubaix. Because Specialized has a bike called the Roubaix. A bike that's named after the famous Paris-Roubaix bike race. Which, of course, is named after the towns in France where it starts (Paris) and ends (Roubaix).

https://www.velonews.com/2013/12/bik...e-brand_310878

[2FUNKY]

That’s gold.

I’m using this when someone questions me on anything.



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Lol, yeah. That one’s gonna stick around a while.

[SchralphMacchio]

^^^^ They sued Stumptown Coffee in Portland and the Portland bike shops didn't take kindly to it.

We've come full circle!!!
TSG owns Stumptown and Backcountry!

[SchralphMacchio]

I never realized competitivecyclist and steep&cheep are also part of that conglomerate... two more websites to never visit...

Also Motosport and Bergfreunde.de. And WhiskeyMilitia, if they are still alive.

[old goat]

So what happens when all the words are trademarked? I guess start making them up--like the names of heavily advertised, $100,000 a year drugs. They come up with some weird names for those.

[El Chupacabra]

Are you asking someone whose dad worked for Goldman Sachs if they know what private equity management is?

Your dad is Steve Bannon?

[cravenmorhead]

Looks like Cripple Creek Backcountry is on notice too.

[EWG]

Specialized has done a bunch of dumb "trademark enforcement" type actions. The biggest one I remember was going after a small coffee shop in Canada called Cafe Roubaix. Because Specialized has a bike called the Roubaix. A bike that's named after the famous Paris-Roubaix bike race. Which, of course, is named after the towns in France where it starts (Paris) and ends (Roubaix).

https://www.velonews.com/2013/12/bik...e-brand_310878

That one was terrible. Here's slightly different one: When Avery Brewing started out Adam Avery had a dog named Elle. He named his brown ale after it. Elle magazine sued him. He was tiny at the time so he changed the name of his beer. And his dog.

This is from the website allaboutbeer.com:
You would think that the average consumer could tell the difference between a beer and a women’s fashion magazine. Yet the publishers of Elle, recalls Adam Avery, brought legal action over a brand called Elle’s Brown Ale, named after the brewer’s late Labrador retriever. Avery resolved the dispute by adding an “i” to make Elle “Ellie.”
We were in the right,” says Avery, “but I didn’t want to spend time in court. Some people might say, ‘I’m going to fight tooth and nail,’ but not me. The problem with trademarks is that you’ve got to spend a lot money to keep them.”

[stuckathuntermtn]

Hedge funds typically work in securities. Read-liquid assets that are generally publicly traded. PE money typically works in privately held businesses. Not nearly as liquid, not publicly traded. But the son of a dad who works for GS would know that. TSG is the PE firm that owns BC.com. If you look at their portfolio of other companies (not stocks or funds) under ownership, you will see a lot of companies you might be familiar with...like PBR, the beer.

I'm sure there are people who could explain it better than me. Call your dad and have him login to give us the Goldman Sachs definition.

Hedge fund is slang for maybe a certain type of PE firm. Unless I have my nouns mixed up. They both often do LBOs of entire companies.



Would only be a great call out if he retired from there and I had the trust fund to go with it.

[Ted Striker]

The great vampire squid.

[Conundrum]

stuck-I'd go with your signature on this one.

[f=ma]

Hedge fund is slang for maybe a certain type of PE firm. Unless I have my nouns mixed up. They both often do LBOs of entire companies.



Would only be a great call out if he retired from there and I had the trust fund to go with it.

Although they may sometimes overlap, hedge funds and private equity are different. Leverage buyouts are the defining activity of Private Equity. Both, however, are alternative investments.