2020 bikes that make your shorts tight

**nickwm21** · 06-30-2020, 01:12 PM

So... 2021 we will see a new smuggler to sit in-between the Spur and Sentinel?

**bagtagley** · 07-01-2020, 06:38 AM

So, the Spur is a Trail Pistol with dentist-only builds and a noodly fork? Revolutionary!

**eldereldo** · 07-01-2020, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by bagtagley

So, the Spur is a Trail Pistol with dentist-only builds and a noodly fork? Revolutionary!

How is a 35mm fork noodly?

**smartyiak** · 07-01-2020, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by bagtagley

So, the Spur is a Trail Pistol with dentist-only builds and a noodly fork? Revolutionary!

Yeah, I mean the 29# GX build has a 35mm PIke and GX ...for $4795. If I'm spending $5000 (or $4795), I'm really sweatin $300. What's that, 1 filling?

**bagtagley** · 07-01-2020, 08:31 AM

Haha! SID Ultimate is the only fork option I see on the Transition site, and $5K seems like a lot for the entry level build, but that’s just one guy’s opinion.

**climberevan** · 07-01-2020, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by smartyiak

You MUST be continuing the talk about the SB100...errr...115.

Not an e-bike:

I want to buy one just to support their snark. Also, it looks like a great balance.

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**eldereldo** · 07-01-2020, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by bagtagley

Haha! SID Ultimate is the only fork option I see on the Transition site, and $5K seems like a lot for the entry level build, but that’s just one guy’s opinion.

Only Sid Ultimate with 120mm travel is the 35mm model. You would think they would mention that somewhere in the marketing though.

**smartyiak** · 07-01-2020, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by bagtagley

Haha! SID Ultimate is the only fork option I see on the Transition site, and $5K seems like a lot for the entry level build, but that’s just one guy’s opinion.

The SID Ultimate has 35mm lowers; the SL has 32. It is a lot...but it's also compares favorably to other brands; they just don't offer an NX/SX or Deore build.

**Dantheman** · 07-01-2020, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by smartyiak

You MUST be continuing the talk about the SB100...errr...115.

Not an e-bike:

That was great, and those trails look incredible.

**zion zig zag** · 07-01-2020, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by Dantheman

That was great, and those trails look incredible.

Just think how much fun they'd be on a 140mm travel bike

**toast2266** · 07-01-2020, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Just think how much fun they'd be on a 140mm travel bike

Approximately 20 more fun.

**cydwhit** · 07-02-2020, 12:27 PM

All these new sporty little bikes are making me wish I could justify owning two FS bikes at once, but I just don't think I can.

So tempted though.....

**xyz** · 07-02-2020, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by cydwhit

All these new sporty little bikes are making me wish I could justify owning two FS bikes at once, but I just don't think I can.

So tempted though.....

1 bike, 2 wheelsets might work for you.

**CaliBrit** · 07-02-2020, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by zion zig zag

Just think how much fun they'd be on a 140mm travel bike

I’d bet the smuggler will be announced soon. I’d just prefer XT drivetrain.

**mcsquared** · 07-02-2020, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by CaliBrit

I’d bet the smuggler will be announced soon. I’d just prefer XT drivetrain.

Smuggler has vanished from the website. I love mine despite it being a heavier, over forked Spur.

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**ticketchecker** · 07-03-2020, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by CaliBrit

I’d bet the smuggler will be announced soon. I’d just prefer XT drivetrain.

pretty much why I always look for frame only options

**shirk** · 07-03-2020, 11:59 AM

If anyone wants the no-name factory direct version of a new downcountry frame.

http://www.carbonda.com/mountain/ful...ension/98.html

**xyz** · 07-03-2020, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by shirk

If anyone wants the no-name factory direct version of a new downcountry frame.

http://www.carbonda.com/mountain/ful...ension/98.html

I wonder how far off we are from just sending off our preferred geometries and suspension designs to Asia for a cheap custom frame. I know a mould is required for each triangle but most should be available. I’d love to cut out the marketing and other overhead fluff in frame prices.

**grinch** · 07-03-2020, 07:55 PM

How much is that one above? Decent numbers. Couldnt find a price

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**toast2266** · 07-03-2020, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by grinch

How much is that one above? Decent numbers. Couldnt find a price

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Probably pretty cheap, as long as you're willing to buy 100 of them.

**shirk** · 07-03-2020, 08:54 PM

650 usd plus shipping (friend paid 150 shipping to Bend)

It's an open mold design. The front end is being used by NS bikes and the full frame by some other small name euro brands.

**shirk** · 07-03-2020, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by xyz

I wonder how far off we are from just sending off our preferred geometries and suspension designs to Asia for a cheap custom frame. I know a mould is required for each triangle but most should be available. I’d love to cut out the marketing and other overhead fluff in frame prices.

I don't think it will happen till someone cracks a lower cost additive manufacturing method. Mold costs are still going to be really high. The one I linked is an open mold so a few manufacturers are basically splitting mold costs.

**grinch** · 07-03-2020, 09:02 PM

Not bad. Not quite cheap enough for me to jump though. Food for thought

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**LeeLau** · 07-03-2020, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by shirk

650 usd plus shipping (friend paid 150 shipping to Bend)

It's an open mold design. The front end is being used by NS bikes and the full frame by some other small name euro brands.

Brian what is that frame supposed to be? I'm not really up on the latest and greatest