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10-22-2019, 10:06 AM #1Registered User
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Binding forward pressure difference between models/brands
Does anyone know how forward pressure Vries between models/brands? Are the pressures similar within a brand? Across the board?
Can you switch and swap toes and heels?
More curious than anything. Don't really have plans to do this.
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10-22-2019, 10:08 AM #2Registered User
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They vary across brands and models depending. For instance, the Marker Royal series requires way more forward pressue to work correctly then do STH, Pivots or Attacks.
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10-22-2019, 10:49 AM #3
If you mean something like Salomon heels and Marker toes, then no you can't (you can, but you shouldn't).
The forward pressure created from the heel piece is designed to work as a system with the toe piece. Salomon designs their toe to release at a certain value in conjunction with the specific forward pressure created from their heel, and vice versa.
Its not like all brands design a binding with a set force of xx Newtons as forward pressure.
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10-22-2019, 12:52 PM #4Registered Useless
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Can mix and match tech binders w/o forward pressure all day long though
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10-22-2019, 01:01 PM #5Registered User
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10-22-2019, 01:03 PM #6www.dpsskis.com
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10-22-2019, 10:41 PM #9Registered User
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Back in the day, before awesome AT bindings were dime a dozen available, I did some heel piece swapping. I had two pairs of Emery bindings, which had some shitty, low DIN heel pieces on them. Not to dissimilar from the Petzal bindings of the same era. I swapped them out for higher DIN marker MMR heel pieces and they worked great. Keep in mind, this was in the days before the Fritschi Diamir binding.
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10-23-2019, 12:30 AM #10
I would guess--and I do mean guess--that you could mix toes and heels if you had access to a binding tester and went by the actual force to release and ignored DIN numbers. But why?
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10-23-2019, 10:10 AM #11
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10-23-2019, 10:14 AM #12
I would guess that you could successfully mix components with similar moderate forward pressure - Salomon STH, Warden, Z-series, Tyrolia Attack, Look SPX and NX. I wouldn't try to subsitute anything else for Marker Royal Family bindings or Look Pivot bindings.
If you have time to experiment with this, a lot of shit has blown down in my yard and I could use someone to rake it up.
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10-23-2019, 12:00 PM #13Registered User
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Thanks all.
Too much shit in my yard to help with yours, unfortunately.
Kind of a Rick Howell moony, like the idea of heel release for knee protection. Have a vague thought of mixing a Shift toe with a Kingpin heel or his heel piece if it ever comes to market.
Don't ever see actually going through with it.
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10-23-2019, 03:05 PM #14
I don't remember where on this forum I read this but I'm pretty sure I recall smarter people than me saying you can't really have lateral release in toe and heel. You need to protect your acl OR your tib/fib.
In fact, even the knee binding that says it does this only allows lateral release at the heel in 1 direction, which means you end up with a left and right ski.
And all accounts say the knee binding sucks donkey balls.
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10-23-2019, 11:02 PM #15
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