WASATCH STOKE, CONDITIONS, OBSERVATIONS and ASSORTED DRIVAL 19-20

[tBatt]

Heard that someone called into Alta Central reporting a slide off of Squaretop with one set of tracks in and no tracks out. Turns out it was a kite skier. Interesting.

[Boissal]

Heard that someone called into Alta Central reporting a slide off of Squaretop with one set of tracks in and no tracks out. Turns out it was a kite skier. Interesting.

Oooof, that would definitely freak me out and a kite skier would be the very last thing I'd think about... Next generation avalanche mitigation strategy: just fly away from it.

[schindlerpiste]

Oooof, that would definitely freak me out and a kite skier would be the very last thing I'd think about... Next generation avalanche mitigation strategy: just fly away from it.

I have thought of this. James Bond shit. Instead of deploying an airbag, deploy a parachute. Trying to out run a slide will fail. When it does, pull the chord, and away you go.

[Phall]

Just saw a pic on FB, not square top but just uphill and lookers left of the fatal Sunday slide.


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[muted]

Just saw a pic on FB, not square top but just uphill and lookers left of the fatal Sunday slide.


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I think you guys mean Speedflyer.

Anyways nice work everyone today! It was a good one.

[snowaddict91]

From FB. Pretty nutty.

[Boissal]

Dropping that slope with 2 crowns and 1 fatality in the past 5 days is an impressive show of faith even with a wing to potentially save you...

[snowaddict91]

Dropping that slope with 2 crowns and 1 fatality in the past 5 days is an impressive show of faith even with a wing to potentially save you...

Not to mention open in-bounds terrain below you, right?

[mall walker]

Dropping that slope with 2 crowns and 1 fatality in the past 5 days is an impressive show of faith even with a wing to potentially save you...

lol yes

[abraham]

Is that what the second slide is from?

[Boissal]

Not to mention open in-bounds terrain below you, right?

Bonus points for sure.

[mall walker]

Is that what the second slide is from?

yeah, speedflyer

[telefreewasatch]

From FB. Pretty nutty.

Totally different avalanches.
The fatal was old snow, probably on the Nov. facets?
It was kinda widespread, deep, and long running.
The speedo guy's slide is new snow, quite local, shallow, and pulls up short.
It looks like that wind slab laid down last Saturday night.
Just not as widespread as it was Sunday.
Interesting that it didn't trigger deep slab on the lower slope.
Pretty good test.

[snowaddict91]

Totally different avalanches.
The fatal was old snow, probably on the Nov. facets?
It was kinda widespread, deep, and long running.
The speedo guy's slide is new snow, quite local, shallow, and pulls up short.
It looks like that wind slab laid down last Saturday night.
Just not as widespread as it was Sunday.
Interesting that it didn't trigger deep slab on the lower slope.
Pretty good test.

Well said. I also found it interesting that it didn't step down at all considering the evidence of persistent weak layer right next to it.

[Boissal]

Totally different avalanches.
The fatal was old snow, probably on the Nov. facets?
It was kinda widespread, deep, and long running.
The speedo guy's slide is new snow, quite local, shallow, and pulls up short.
It looks like that wind slab laid down last Saturday night.
Just not as widespread as it was Sunday.
Interesting that it didn't trigger deep slab on the lower slope.
Pretty good test.

It looks like it steps down a bit about 1/3 of the way down but doesn't propagate. Hard to tell from the pic, maybe it has to do with the shrubs/trees in that zone. It was enough to spook the UAC investigative team apparently. Same aspect/elevation/loading profile and probably very similar snowpack structure. Less graupel pooling but also closer to the ridge with fewers trees to reduce snow transport. You lose the ball bearings but gain wind loading, trade one basement-dwelling monster for another. Must have been interesting to watch it from above while flying away...

[mall walker]

figured I'd get a long walk in before the holidays. plenty of good snow to be had still... just a tiny bit less now

[whyturn]

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[Boissal]

figured I'd get a long walk in before the holidays. plenty of good snow to be had still... just a tiny bit less now

Props for your restraint, centerpunching the still untracked SE face between your tips. Even knowing it's probably heinous zipper crust I couldn't have helped myself...

[mall walker]

Props for your restraint, centerpunching the still untracked SE face between your tips. Even knowing it's probably heinous zipper crust I couldn't have helped myself...

It was soft, I just ran out of time...

[jtran10]

went for a dog walk up the mill creek road and back last night. got back to my car at like 530, walking in trail runners with poles.

group of 4-5 in AT gear ask me "hey, do you know what the avy report says today?"

"yea, what aspect?"

"north facing"

"down at this elevation? it's low. but if you go higher it's considerable. I'd probably avoid that in the dark."

walked away, drove home. Unbelievable lack of knowledge and stupidity.

[Skidog]

Just saw mineral opens tomorrow..git some ladies and gents.

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[Boissal]

went for a dog walk up the mill creek road and back last night. got back to my car at like 530, walking in trail runners with poles.

group of 4-5 in AT gear ask me "hey, do you know what the avy report says today?"

"yea, what aspect?"

"north facing"

"down at this elevation? it's low. but if you go higher it's considerable. I'd probably avoid that in the dark."

walked away, drove home. Unbelievable lack of knowledge and stupidity.

Followers of the Church of the UAC Rose.
Ain't that all you need these days? A picture with 4 colors, 8 quadrants, and 4 elevation ranges, a grossly reductionist system meant to convey a complex set of information to a lazy and undeducated user group in a bite-size easily digestible fashion. Just enough to be able to armchair QB the lines choices of other groups but not too much that actual thinking might be required.
I've seen several requests to layer the rose onto a topo map of the Wasatch so the actual zones are colored based on elevation, orientation, and risk. That would greatly simplify terrain decisions: green and yellow = good to go, orange and above = certain death or at least online flogging.

[zion zig zag]

I've seen several requests to layer the rose onto a topo map of the Wasatch so the actual zones are colored based on elevation, orientation, and risk.

I swear I've actually seen that somewhere. How long before there is an app that does this AND tells you immediately when the skinner is in to those areas?

I miss the old days.

[mall walker]

gotta slay that moonlight one-and-done up in a-bay... but the homies didn't check what color it is today, fuckin bummer dude!! wait maybe this guy knows...

[happytimefunbox]

You all can thank me for this incredible start to the season, my Wife just gave birth to our 2nd baby boy. She's out for a bit but wont be soon before she is back on the hill! needless to say i missed every pow day so far haha.

Congrats MARCG! Give L regards from Mrs HTFB and myself (formerly the fugitive)