Snow in the PNW 2019-20

[ridinshockgun]

WA weather is very, very complicated.

Suggest this book by Cliff Mass

"In The Weather of the Pacific Northwest, University of Washington atmospheric scientist and popular radio commentator Cliff Mass unravels the intricacies of Northwest weather, from the mundane to the mystifying. By examining our legendary floods, snowstorms, and windstorms, and a wide variety of local weather features, Mass answers such interesting questions as:

Why is it so hard to predict Northwest weather?"

Read it already and am familiar with most of the variables, just find it funny watching the NWS forecast discussions rapidly being revised with 50% of the storms being total crap shoots. It seems like there would be model by now that could more accurately predict the easterly flow and dynamic cooling that happens there.

[PNWbrit]

Jim Steenburgh > Cliff Mass.

Hey Jersey boy, go back to Utah.

[AK47bp]

Read it already and am familiar with most of the variables, just find it funny watching the NWS forecast discussions rapidly being revised with 50% of the storms being total crap shoots. It seems like there would be model by now that could more accurately predict the easterly flow and dynamic cooling that happens there.

I’m no Brick Tamland but isn’t this due to that giant un-radar covered ocean? How many miles off the coast can we see?

The Rockies can see systems moving in for days.

[plugboots]

Hey Jersey boy, go back to Utah.

Like.

[John_B]

When Jim Steenburgh starts writing about the Pacific NW weather I'll start reading it. Although I do think Mass is a obnoxious asshole.

[ridinshockgun]

Although I do think Mass is a obnoxious asshole.

Most good scientists are

[PNWbrit]

isn’t this due to

Yes.

And no.

Somewhat.

Although I do think Mass is a obnoxious asshole.

Yep.

[The AD]

Although I do think Mass is a obnoxious asshole.

Totally.

[oftpiste]

In terms of sharkiness, how did it compare to the Bec?

Sharks on Tink are slightly less consequential.

[snoqpass]

When Jim Steenburgh starts writing about the Pacific NW weather I'll start reading it. Although I do think Mass is a obnoxious asshole.

Cliff Mass should go to the old folks home and let apple sauce run down his chin

[Ted Striker]

How many miles off the coast can we see?

The Rockies can see systems moving in for days.

All the way to the other side, but it isn't radar.

As someone who relies on weather observations and forecasts every day at work, I can tell you that they're remarkably accurate in the 12-24 hour timeframe. The problem is that the public wants to know what next weekend will look like on Tuesday. Since that isn't possible with a high degree of accuracy, they hedge their bets with "___% probability", and an overly pessimistic outlook because people seldom complain when the weather is better than forecast. Since good for most people is bad for skiers, we're disappointed.

[glademaster]

Hey Jersey boy, go back to Utah.

Hey, go fuck yourself. Eat shit and die. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

My comment had nothing to do with whether or not Cliff is worth reading, but the fact remains that while he is knowledgeable about PNW weather, his knowledge of mountain weather pales in comparison to Steenburgh's.

[ACH]

As someone who relies on weather observations and forecasts every day at work, I can tell you that they're remarkably accurate in the 12-24 hour timeframe. The problem is that the public wants to know what next weekend will look like on Tuesday. Since that isn't possible with a high degree of accuracy, they hedge their bets with "___% probability", and an overly pessimistic outlook because people seldom complain when the weather is better than forecast. Since good for most people is bad for skiers, we're disappointed.

This right here.

[californiagrown]

Hey, go fuck yourself. Eat shit and die. I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

You seem nice. I woulda never guessed your from Jersey...

[2FUNKY]

Cliff is worth reading, but the fact remains that while he is knowledgeable about PNW weather, his knowledge of mountain weather pales in comparison to Steenburgh's.

Yeah, well my scientist can beat up your scientist.

[Norseman]

Isn't Cliff Mass from Jersey?

[SeatownSlackey]

hey now, aint nuthin wrong with the Garden State. I lived there for a year and look how well adjusted i came out...........

[Norseman]

[ACH]

Yeah, well my scientist can beat up your scientist.

Look how well adjusted i came out...........

"snort"

[jackattack]

Jim Steenburgh > Cliff Mass.

lol.

Cliff has been a professor since Jim was in his undergrad. They are both great scientists and experts in the field but to say one is greater than the other? Get real.

[GeezerSteve]

. . . but the fact remains that while he is knowledgeable about PNW weather, his knowledge of mountain weather pales in comparison to Steenburgh's.

What mountains? I'd bet good money that Professor Cliff Mass [Media] is more knowledgeable than Professor Steenburgh about the Puget Sound Convergence Zone and its effect on Washington Cascade Mountain weather. OTOH, I'd prolly give Steenburgh the edge on that Rocky Mountain afternoon summer thunderstorm thing.

And, yeah, Cliff Mass Media is an asshole.

[PNWbrit]

I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire..

Shame.

You seem to have an abundance of it.

Meanwhile we will all bow to your knowledge of the weather here.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Great dick waving over weather here, what a bunch of tards. Can’t you morons just be happy it’s snowing?

[plugboots]

Great dick waving over weather here, what a bunch of tards. Can’t you morons just be happy it’s snowing?

Sure.

[ACH]

Great dick waving over weather here, what a bunch of tards. Can’t you morons just be happy it’s snowing?

New here?