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  1. #526
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    So if I drive up Glacier Creek Rd, hike up Heliotrope, then ski, is the base where my truck is parked?

    Base = the settled snow under the overnight (or recent if it's snowing) snowfall, aka "snow base".

    But I agree. There's a fine line between optimistic and BS.
    Cmon man, we're talking about a commercial ski area here. Base is and has always been the bottom of the hill. They can fudge a bit where they choose to measure, bu it should be consistent as to elevation. If they want to pick the bottom of the best current run, then they should say so. You guys sure give them a lot of leeway. I personally couldn't give a fuck, as I rely on the telemetry and I don't ride lifts anymore, but it sure seems like they are baiting people into a false expectation about the quality of conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    I'm a strict textualist. So when they say "snow base" to me that means the amount of snow measured at the base, not 3/4 way up the mountain. Clear fraud!
    Most of my skiing is in the upper 1/3 of the mountain, much more concerned with the snow up there. I love some exterminator laps and northway butthe report from the base of GV and 6 is gonna be a better indicator of a good day for me.

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    That's a lot of words for not giving a fuck.

    You're right, they are baiting people into a false expectation about the quality of conditions. It's a time honored tradition.

    Jackson Hole, Whistler, and numerous other big resorts use a point on the mountain that's thousands of feet higher than the base. Even Baker doesn't report from White Salmon.

    As you said, telemetry is fact, and report is fiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    Cmon man, we're talking about a commercial ski area here. Base is and has always been the bottom of the hill. They can fudge a bit where they choose to measure, bu it should be consistent as to elevation. If they want to pick the bottom of the best current run, then they should say so. You guys sure give them a lot of leeway. I personally couldn't give a fuck, as I rely on the telemetry and I don't ride lifts anymore, but it sure seems like they are baiting people into a false expectation about the quality of conditions.
    I for one am dazzled by your telemetry skills on display here.
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  5. #530
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    Silver is skiing soooo good. Sorry no action shots.
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  6. #531
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    Is that a ski area lot or all those cars people touring?

  7. #532
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    I for one am dazzled by your telemetry skills on display here.
    Thanks!

  8. #533
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    I for one am dazzled by your telemetry skills on display here.
    He doesn’t even ride lifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    Is that a ski area lot or all those cars people touring?
    Ski area.

    That's the marketing department lot.
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  10. #535
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    He doesn’t even ride lifts.
    I didn’t mean to imply that there’s anything wrong w/ riding lifts. Just did it too long and got burned out on it. Just thought it was crazy that there was such a discrepancy between the report and the telemetry. On further consideration could be that they are measuring where they have been making snow.
    Last edited by Wapow; 12-14-2019 at 02:22 PM.

  11. #536
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    Snow in the PNW 2019-20

    Donated some ptex today at Mt Dweebus. First couple of runs of GV were fun. Under REX was okay. Forest Queen and other runs were of the WROD quality. Never skied Crystal with such low tide conditions before. Pray for more snow. We need it.
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  12. #537
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    And the lots are full.

    The new normal.

    Thanks Ikon.
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  13. #538
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    I'll be hitting Crystal for the first time tomorrow. I'll probably be content with the mediocre to poor conditions atleast for a day.

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    With a meager amount of snow, two hazards to watch for. Underlying rocks & other surprises and "whizzies". You know them when they blast by you three feet away going fast enough to dis-embowel you if they hit ya.
    F-heads with no concept. Bring appropriate ski's and leave P-tex willingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BFD View Post
    Is that a ski area lot or all those cars people touring?
    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Ski area.

    That's the marketing department lot.
    Object of the first pic: stuck shuttle truck with a load of passengers, spinning all 6 wheels for a solid minute or two at the new C-lot pickup spot, then spinning again but in a melodious 2-part diesel harmony as the white work truck skittered and clawed across the boulevard against the tow strap.

    Shuttle didn't budge. Passengers got off and walked. White truck pulled it onto the boulevard, then unhooked and drove off while the dually remained stuck in the middle of the road, spinning again and slowly jack-knifing its two empty trailers as the driver tried to find traction but just went downhill.

    The white truck returned and pulled the empty shuttle right past the group of ex-passengers, all the way up to the ticket window.
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    Sounds like everybody’s favorite ski resort will open tomorrow. That’s right...Summit West!

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    Snow in the PNW 2019-20

    Quote Originally Posted by gnarbro365 View Post
    Sounds like everybody’s favorite ski resort will open tomorrow. That’s right...Summit West!
    “Soft opening” 10 ~ 3pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    Base is and has always been the bottom of the hill.
    Methinks you don't know the difference between the "base" of a mountain and the "snow base."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    And the lots are full.

    The new normal.

    Thanks Ikon.
    Lets hope stevens and the summit can open some terrain before friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Methinks you don't know the difference between the "base" of a mountain and the "snow base."
    Last season he was arguing WA weather and snowpack with CMOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Methinks you don't know the difference between the "base" of a mountain and the "snow base."
    Maybe he likes to rip turns at the base only. Magic carpet laps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Methinks you don't know the difference between the "base" of a mountain and the "snow base."
    Please educate me on this term of art. I've only been skiing for 40+ years, obsessively. Had a pass at Alpy for around 15 yrs and Crystal for 8. Never heard "snow base" before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Last season he was arguing WA weather and snowpack with CMOR.
    I don't even remember that. You're a bonafide rainman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wapow View Post
    Please educate me on this term of art. I've only been skiing for 40+ years, obsessively. Had a pass at Alpy for around 15 yrs and Crystal for 8. Never heard "snow base" before.
    Well then maybe you're basing this on a 40 year old definition. These days almost all ski areas are going to report their snow depth (aka "base") from a location somewhere up on the hill, not down at the parking lot.

  25. #550
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    I finally solved this important mystery! If you go to the full report page on the Crystal website it defaults to summit info. There is a "Base/Summit" link in the upper left hand of the page, that I didn't notice. The 24" "snow base" in my original post was from the summit. They are currently reporting a 15" "snow base" when you toggle to the Base link. Mea culpa.
    Last edited by Wapow; 12-14-2019 at 08:48 PM.

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