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Thread: Snow in the PNW 2019-20
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11-26-2019, 11:46 AM #201
Excellent look forward to a TR
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11-26-2019, 01:30 PM #202
Currently snowing out my office window here in Bend. 6 inches forecast to fall in town proper. Should be a decent opening for Friday at Bachy, if the forecasted 2 feet shows up by Friday.
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11-26-2019, 01:36 PM #203Registered User
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Apparently the re-written RCW requires the ski area operator to state the "out of bounds" policy on trail maps. That said, there is a misdemeanor involved should you be caught on any area they manage if it's closed and signage indicates such. Won't find that on the trail map (somewhere in the fine print?). So theoretically, CM could be in the state of grooming / prepping the hill but not be open, light up the board as closed, and you might get in shit being on their permitted area. Regulated terrain now encompasses Three way and a lot of stuff east & north of it so sounds like it's within the policy. Doubt they would go hard core & who's out there watching anyway (now) but I'm curious. Anyone have a take on this?
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11-26-2019, 02:24 PM #204Registered User
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This isn't a new law. Guessing Crystal's lawyers just decided to include the notice on their trail maps this year. And the law making it a misdemeanor to travel in closed areas was passed in 2011. I don't know how often it gets enforced here, but in UT they call the cops on all the dumbshits who duck the ropes (full disclosure, I was one of them in my youth). I've never understood why people feel the need to skin up to Silver Basin via the resort when it's operating. You can get there outside of Crystal's boundaries, if you really need to ski up there. But again, why? Norse/East Peak/Cement/Morse/Big Crow, etc. are better skiing with way less traffic. I suspect it's because of the "resort is inherently safer" heuristic.
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11-26-2019, 02:33 PM #205
Seems these days you get a lot of beginners or intermediate people touring. They buy all the gear and any idiot can skin up and not look like a beginner. Save the cost of a pass. So 2 hours of touring, looking cool, taking selfies, then a 10 minute snowplow descent. Comical.
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11-26-2019, 02:42 PM #206
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11-26-2019, 03:30 PM #207Registered User
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Did find the uphill travel link which helped. Outside season, nothing looks prohibited and that's about the only time I'd be there. Glad I checked though, you need a card from the ski patrol to climb within their area. Also a board by the chapel to show "no uphill traffic" when they shut it down. East pk. access from the base? Other ways to get there but wonder if they would intervene if you went uphill to the cat track during a closure? That would be something new and different.
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11-26-2019, 03:52 PM #208Registered User
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11-26-2019, 03:57 PM #209
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11-26-2019, 04:09 PM #210
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11-26-2019, 04:18 PM #211
Depends on what " no uphill traffic" means.
At face value, it means closure, although the left fork at the runway used to be fair game.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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11-26-2019, 04:22 PM #212
there's the trail from the cabins to bear gap...
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11-26-2019, 04:27 PM #213
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11-26-2019, 04:33 PM #214
The way I read it, left at the runway is still ok assuming the uphill travel lights are not on and the Quiksilver uphill route is approved for the day. The new map on the uphill page has the little spur off the Quiksilver uphill route.
https://www.crystalmountainresort.co.../uphill-travel
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11-26-2019, 04:36 PM #215
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11-26-2019, 04:53 PM #216Registered User
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I'm surprised they don't just cut a trail in the woods looker's left of "Boondogle" and call it the uphill only track. Alpy should do the same in the Source Lake drainage. If I was running the show, I'd charge for parking there too. Plowing ain't free. That said, I never go to the Alp anymore, so it's easy to pontificate.
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11-26-2019, 04:53 PM #217
As usual, despite all the verbiage and the failure of language, if they want to be pricks and deny access they can according to canon.
If they don't want to be pricks, they can choose to interpret more liberally.Merde De Glace On the Freak When Ski
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11-26-2019, 04:55 PM #218
Man...a monster of a bomb cyclone is hitting the west coast and it's missing pretty much all of WA and BC...
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11-26-2019, 04:59 PM #219
And Idaho and 1/2 of Montana.
Who pissed off ULLR?
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11-26-2019, 05:04 PM #220
Well, unless your ski area benefits from strong northeasterlies.
That’s a decent forecast for the windy hill, particularly with guns blazing.
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11-26-2019, 05:16 PM #221Registered User
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11-26-2019, 05:17 PM #222Registered User
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11-26-2019, 05:21 PM #223
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11-26-2019, 06:09 PM #224
My understanding of the situation is that ULLR is being extorted and/or bribed by parties as yet unnamed. But the word on the street is that there was no Quid Pro Quo for ULLR to make it snow in Oregon/Northern Cali/Colorado and Utah while keeping it dry in the Northern most parts of NW America and BC.
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11-26-2019, 06:50 PM #225Registered User
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Day users who don't buy a ticket or have a seasons pass only, of course! A good strategy would be to make Lot 4 for season passholders and paid parking pass holders only (the resort could give a day pass to daily ticket buyers too - put a kiosk at Lot 4). Everybody else gets a boot! I'm full of solutions!
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