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12-03-2020, 02:24 PM #2926
Bummer. You can try to true to get you by but in the end that hub is done.
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12-03-2020, 02:24 PM #2927
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12-03-2020, 02:26 PM #2928
It's kinda tough to tell from the picture how fuckered the spoke seat is. If it's not too bad and you're ok with a ghetto fix, you could maybe slop some JB weld on there and it'd keep the spoke from popping out of its slot again.
But looking at some of the other spokes, it looks like their grasp on the hub might be a bit tenuous as well. Any chance that hub got relaced with a different spoke pattern?
What hub is it? If it's still made, you might be able to rustle up just a hub shell for pretty cheap.
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12-03-2020, 02:34 PM #2929yelgatgab
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12-03-2020, 02:36 PM #2930
I’m gonna say that wheel is now industrial waste.
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12-03-2020, 02:43 PM #2931yelgatgab
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12-03-2020, 02:46 PM #2932
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12-03-2020, 02:49 PM #2933Registered User
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almost fully completely unless you could figure out a way to anchor that spoke end with a washer or sft
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12-03-2020, 02:49 PM #2934
Ok, you might just need to dip the whole wheel in JB Weld.
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12-03-2020, 02:53 PM #2935yelgatgab
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12-03-2020, 03:23 PM #2936
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12-03-2020, 03:38 PM #2937
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12-03-2020, 03:43 PM #2938
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12-03-2020, 04:18 PM #2939However many are in a shit ton.
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12-03-2020, 06:08 PM #2940
For a 24 spoke rear wheel? Lol I hope you are totally kidding
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12-03-2020, 07:26 PM #2941
Ritira il tuo sarcasmo metro
Sent from my iPhone using TGR ForumsHowever many are in a shit ton.
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12-03-2020, 07:36 PM #2942
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12-03-2020, 07:45 PM #2943yelgatgab
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I'll just build a 20 spoke wheel this time. What could go wrong?
That's the second rim I've killed this year, both without damaging the tire or even pinch flatting. The hit that killed the most recent rim hurt my ankles, and it's clearly not the strongest wheel, so probably not a good example, but I do wonder if the insert is somehow related. I barely felt the hit that killed my carbon rim earlier this year.Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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12-03-2020, 08:00 PM #2944
I've pinch flatted DH tires on my WR1 Agents (without an insert) and the rim shrugged those off, so I'm pretty impressed that you managed to explode one on a curb.
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12-03-2020, 08:12 PM #2945yelgatgab
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12-03-2020, 08:28 PM #2946
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12-03-2020, 08:47 PM #2947
I've been riding with one missing spoke for the last 4-5 rides or so, but I have 31 left. Reminds me I need to decide if I upgrade my cassette or not when I replace the spoke.
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12-03-2020, 09:06 PM #2948
Local guy that's a part owner in a wheel / rim company is completely convinced that inserts put more stress on rims and cause them to break over time. His theory is that, while inserts minimize large impacts, they transfer stress from lots and lots of small impacts directly into the rim that fatigues it over time.
Or something like that. I'm skeptical, but who knows.
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12-03-2020, 09:22 PM #2949Registered User
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I think it was just perfectly badly timed due to my exceptional hack skillz, and landed 1 rim edge slightly before the other due to the slope. Not exceptionally fat (170 lbs), or crazy low pressure (22 psi), and had CC XC in it. It also didn't fail catastrophically when it did, just crunch a bit of splintering. It held pressure until like 6 hours later when I got around to stripping the tire and insert off for warranty photos.
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12-03-2020, 10:22 PM #2950
That's interesting. On a hit where a tire without an insert would have bottomed onto the rim, the insert likely offers protection. But on smaller hits, the tire is more likely to bottom out onto the insert, which then transfers load to the rim, whereas it may have just kept just compressing the tire if the tire was only filled with air. I need to think about this a bit more.
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