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08-10-2022, 10:53 AM #8651
From the last couple posts, it sounds to me like the hub was originally 36t XD, the wheel manufacturer converted it to 54t MS to fill your order, but they didn't swap the XD end cap for an MS one, and the MS lockring is bottoming out on it. I bet if you swap the drive side end cap for an MS one, it'll solve your problems.
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08-10-2022, 11:14 AM #8652
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08-10-2022, 04:33 PM #8653
You know what else causes the problems I had? Not installing the drive side spacer at all because it was in the wheel box, and then tightening the axle until the stay touches the lockring causing friction and shifting everything outboard vs the mech position.
Thanks all for giving me the undeserved credit of assuming I wouldn't make such a dumb move and fail to recognize it. My only defense is that I did it at midnight.Last edited by summit; 08-10-2022 at 04:56 PM.
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08-10-2022, 07:41 PM #8654Not a skibum
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So horizontal drop outs (DJ) are dumb. I have a Hadley bolt on axle but it keeps slipping. This is on a DT-Swiss 350, 135x10mm thru axle.
Wondering if a DT-Swiss RWS or other axle will be more secure?
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08-10-2022, 07:46 PM #8655
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08-10-2022, 08:09 PM #8656Not a skibum
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Ah shoulda added that they conflict w my Hadley axle, as they’re too wide so don’t have enough threads and also take same slot in horizontal drop.
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08-10-2022, 08:27 PM #8657
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08-10-2022, 08:36 PM #8658Not a skibum
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Shoulda taken some and is late, but the Hadley non drive side has a notch that fits in the horizontal drop. Same is on the drive and non drive of bmx tugs, which overlap. So tugs won’t work w my axle, hence curious if the RWS or if there are other better options.
The Hadley doesn’t have any kind of gnarled surface to adhere to horizontal drop as it’s perfectly smooth.
Edit - yep that’s what I’m running, tried taking the spacer out but still not wide enough w chain tugs.
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08-10-2022, 08:45 PM #8659
Makes sense, maybe try to find an old saint/zee 10mm thru axle or just source a solid chromoly hub axle and use that as a thru axle. Either way you need to make it so you can use a tensioner if you are puting any sort of power down.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
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08-10-2022, 09:35 PM #8660
Yeah, those bolt on thru axle inserts don't actually generate much clamping force. Iirc, a decent quick release actually clamps harder.
Can you grind off the nubs that prevent you from using a tensioner?
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08-11-2022, 08:56 AM #8661Not a skibum
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Just bought a saint axle off eBay, will give that a go alongside chain tugs. Hopefully solves the issue, frustrating
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08-11-2022, 04:34 PM #8662
EXT Storia question for the experts, likely applicable to most coil shocks.
Had my Gnarvana in the stand the other day and realized that the spring had a tiny bit of play (maybe 0.5 mm) when the rear wheel wasn't on the ground. I tightened the preload collar a bit so I could still spin the spring by hand but couldn't feel any fore-aft motion at all. EXT recommends 1 mm of preload, I doubt I got the spring to compress that much. When I got on the bike today it felt a bit better, I guess springier would be the word, and definitely stiffer. The issue though was the loud topout clank I got anytime the shock reached full extension. Given the fact that I move the rear wheel constantly and it spends a ton of time off the ground, the racket was quite annoying. I added a bit of rebound damping but it didn't quiet things down much. Anyone dealing with this on EXT shocks? People complain that they're super loud, which they are. I really don't mind the slurping noise coming from the damper but that metal-on-metal clank is a bit cringe-inducing when it happens at speed and makes you wonder if the shock is going to self destruct..."Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise
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08-11-2022, 05:24 PM #8663Registered User
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That sounds wrong. I've had my Storia about 2 years and don't get that. I think you're possibly still missing some preload. I like to do that with the shock off the bike. I get it until I can no longer pull the spring away from the collar by hand, then add 1 more complete revolution.
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08-11-2022, 06:00 PM #8664
Wait, missing preload? I'd think the more preload on the shock the harder it will push when fully unloaded and the more you'd get the clank when it fully extends no? I'll try tonight and see if it makes a difference, it's counterintuitive to me but it's my first coil so I'm not exactly experienced...
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08-11-2022, 06:29 PM #8665
Worst case, swing by EXT USA/ Suspension Syndicate, they’re in SLC. I’m sure they’d sort you out. My Storia does not have any top out noise that I’ve noticed.
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08-11-2022, 08:06 PM #8666Registered User
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08-11-2022, 08:28 PM #8667
I don’t know anything about the Storia, but I’d be surprised if there isn’t some sort of top-out bumper in it, so metal clanking is probably spring, not the shock, so I agree that it’s likely a not-enough preload issue.
Simple to test though, right? Just give it another couple turns of preload and see if the noise changes or goes away. If quieter or gone, then it was preload, if it’s louder then maybe you’re on the right track about top out. Either way, you’re not going to damage anything by playing with the preload a little.
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08-11-2022, 09:29 PM #8668
Thanks all. What confuses me here is that the preload collar wasn't tight enough before but there wasn't any noise. I just noticed it when the bike was in the stand and realized that I could move the rear wheel up a couple mm before the spring contacted the collar. Once I got the preload supposedly correct it started clanking.
I'll swing by the Suspension Syndicate tomorrow and pick Cody's brain, we'll see what I fucked up."Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise
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08-11-2022, 10:06 PM #8669
It’s been a few years, but I had a similar thing happening and discovered that my spring was bent. It wouldn’t stay snug on the collar with a minimum amount of preload.
If you take the spring off and stand it on a flat service you can see a bend if its there.
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08-11-2022, 10:48 PM #8670Registered User
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08-12-2022, 12:19 AM #8671Registered User
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Riding a Virtus Mythique 29. My rear suspension works fine - compresses and rebounds. However, if I lock it out, it will compress then rebound VERY slowly.
Any suggestions as to what might be happening? This is my first bike so don't really know anything about them.
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08-12-2022, 08:02 AM #8672Registered User
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08-12-2022, 04:34 PM #8673
Anyone tried this? Somewhat interested but the price puts me off.
https://na.pocsports.com/products/co...42274465448102
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08-12-2022, 05:11 PM #8674
Hey experts,
So I somehow bent the axle on my singlespeed and need to find a replacement axle that Chris King no longer stocks (too much torque in the legs! ). More likely something rattled loose holding everything together but we each have our narratives right?
Long shot, but anyone got a lead on a PHB541 - 135 mm Bolt On axle for the singlespeed ISO Disc hub?
I searched the interwebz but the part appears to be out of stock.
Appreciate it if someone could give me a lead so I don’t need to get a new hub.
Cheers,
Coach
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08-12-2022, 09:54 PM #8675
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