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  1. #14001
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    That's more or less how most of the cable actuated discs worked. Same mechanism on an Avid BB7, which were the most common mechanical calipers and actually worked pretty well. I'd run them.
    After the hayes mags on which every thing fucked up I had PTSD for these new fangled disc brakes, but the BB7's which I ran for > 2yrs had zero problems just turn the red knobs a click to adj the padz in towards the disc. i liked the BB7 it had lots of power with big rotors even > the hayes mags but they didn't really modulate very well, I ran shifter housing for the extra stiffness which was not recommended but no problem

    I am going to assume a gravel bike will have dorp bars and roady levers ???

    so if they are mtb brakes getting the right amount of cable pull with a road lever might be a problem ??

    I know the BB7 came in both mtn bike and road model which is why I ask and i tend towards forget the pro-max don't do this
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  2. #14002
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    I'm not feeling the faith that others are.
    Janky (his description, not mine), off-brand BB7 clones with short cable pull road levers to control a 40lb ebike with 200lb rider.
    How bad could it be?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spencer123 View Post
    A friend of mine who is a somewhat casual rider is looking for a solid trail bike that can do some occasional light duty up at the Targhee bike park (blues and blacks, but not pushing it at all). He missed out on all the amazing deals on the nice builds of the stumpjumper EVO, alloy sentinal and others what were around. This Switchblade popped up on Jenson which seems like a pretty good deal. He rode and really enjoyed the Ripmo, the sizing is very similar on the chart, the major differnce I see is a steeper headtube angle, which should be ok for him. Has anybody ridden it, good reccommendation at this price? Does it feel relatively capable downhill compared to other bikes in the category ? Thanks!

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    That's a great deal.

    I owned one for a bit. Personally, I'd say it's a "longer-travel trail bike" rather than an enduro bike. I sold mine because I kept trying to make it "more" and push it away from my Epic Evo. Cascade Link, Float X2 rear shock, angleset, etc. The more I tried to make it a "bigger" bike, the less I liked it.
    It's amazing in its original role. It's fun, corners great. It's not a plow-bike, but it's fun to hop around the trail. It'll do great as a trail / light duty & Occasional park bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    That's a great deal.

    I owned one for a bit. Personally, I'd say it's a "longer-travel trail bike" rather than an enduro bike. I sold mine because I kept trying to make it "more" and push it away from my Epic Evo. Cascade Link, Float X2 rear shock, angleset, etc. The more I tried to make it a "bigger" bike, the less I liked it.
    It's amazing in its original role. It's fun, corners great. It's not a plow-bike, but it's fun to hop around the trail. It'll do great as a trail / light duty & Occasional park bike.
    Spent some time on the new switchblade, which is pretty similar to the prior version. Agreed with this assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    I'm not feeling the faith that others are.
    Janky (his description, not mine), off-brand BB7 clones with short cable pull road levers to control a 40lb ebike with 200lb rider.
    How bad could it be?
    I think bigger rotors are definitely warranted.

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    Agreed. I currently have the generation of Switchblade that’s listed in the link.

    My use is someone who likes fast XC bikes but wants a “bigger bike” that’s still good for all day epics. I’ll go ride what I call “mag 8” which is just Mag 7 without a shuttle and riding back up the Jug Handle road and it’s perfect for that.

    Could by shorter travel bike handle the descents? Sure but the extra bit of suspension makes me a bit less likely to crash and reduces fatigue.

    I spent some time on a SB150 prior to buying the switchblade which was fundamentally different. Just a lot more bike but not something I’d want to pedal 40-50 miles.

    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    That's a great deal.

    I owned one for a bit. Personally, I'd say it's a "longer-travel trail bike" rather than an enduro bike. I sold mine because I kept trying to make it "more" and push it away from my Epic Evo. Cascade Link, Float X2 rear shock, angleset, etc. The more I tried to make it a "bigger" bike, the less I liked it.
    It's amazing in its original role. It's fun, corners great. It's not a plow-bike, but it's fun to hop around the trail. It'll do great as a trail / light duty & Occasional park bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    I sold mine because I kept trying to make it "more" and push it away from my Epic Evo. Cascade Link, Float X2 rear shock, angleset, etc. The more I tried to make it a "bigger" bike, the less I liked it.
    You wanted a Firebird.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskier View Post
    Trying to repurpose some old cable-actuated disc brakes from the mid 2010's. "Promax". They feel janky as f**k and I have never seen a mechanism like this let alone pads for it. Actuating the brake causes the caliper to twist or screw closed to make contact with the rotor. On a scale of 1 to you-will-die, how inadvisable is it to run these? 160mm rotors stopping a 40lb gravel E-bike, 200lb rider, bike trailer and occupants. The alternative is plunking down $200 or so for a hydraulic Sora setup Question 2: Is rotor up-sizing on a gravel bike a thing and would it more effectively increase pure stopping power? I feel like I've only seen 160mm outside of mtb...

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    I’m a hard no on this. Cable disc brakes have no business on e-bikes, especially if you’re hauling children. Those Promax brakes suck. They work more like a BB5, with an adjustable inboard pad position but outboard pad position is only adjusted by cable tension.


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    A solid pair of Deore level 4 piston brakes will stop a Toyota Tacoma with a bed full of Taliban mercenaries and costs like $80 per side. It’s a no brainer if comparing with cable anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    You wanted a Firebird.
    Its funny, at the time yes.

    I bought the Stumpy Evo, Ran it slacker and longer with an X2 for a season.
    Now I'm not riding anything too rowdy anymore so I'm back on the Float X with it shorter and steeper. Probably could've stuck with the Switchblade after all!

    I will say, I sold the SB to a friend who rode it 4x harder than I ever did, so it's not about the bike - it's about the rider.

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    Broke my frame, so time for some new bike puzzling. I have a steel 150/140 bike that no longer has a triangular front triangle. Here are the options I'm seeing:

    1. The frame builder has offered to make me a new front triangle for $1400, which is pretty generous given I got the frame used. He can beef it up a bit so it hopefully fares better than its predecessor.

    1a. Alternatively, the builder will make me a new frame for around crash replacement price. Not totally sure what the cost is yet but I'd guess at least $2k without shock. This would let me go with a different rear travel and make some geo adjustments if I want.

    2. I could get an aluminum Transition Spire frame, EXT coil shock and Cascade link for $2k used. Almost all the parts from my old bike will swap over; I have a Mezzer so I can adjust the fork up to 180mm travel. The rest of the build was similarly beefy so the parts should be a decent match.

    3. My friend has offered to sell me a current generation Sentinel, either frame only or full bike. Sounds like the build would be fairly similar to the parts I have in terms of beef.

    I ride at the standard northern NM spots: Santa Fe mountains, Glorieta, Sandia, Pajarito, etc. Mix of midweek pedaling and weekend shuttling/park. I like racing local enduros but am not particularly competitive yet. The old bike had similar geo to a size Large Spire, which feels pretty good.

    Do I use this as an opportunity to build up two bikes, a trail bike and an enduro/park bike? Or should I stick with one ~140mm bike for everything?

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    Long shot…does anyone have a three pawl DT (370) microspline freehub sitting around ? I know a lot of people converted to ratchet. I’m having an issue, but I am not 100% sure that the FHB is the issue, so I’m leery of spending $90 to see.

    Thought I would throw it out here first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Long shot…does anyone have a three pawl DT (370) microspline freehub sitting around ? I know a lot of people converted to ratchet. I’m having an issue, but I am not 100% sure that the FHB is the issue, so I’m leery of spending $90 to see.

    Thought I would throw it out here first!
    Not holding, but they come up cheap on fleabay alot: https://www.ebay.com/itm/395588004130
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Long shot…does anyone have a three pawl DT (370) microspline freehub sitting around ? I know a lot of people converted to ratchet. I’m having an issue, but I am not 100% sure that the FHB is the issue, so I’m leery of spending $90 to see.

    Thought I would throw it out here first!
    I think I've got one sitting in my shed. Let me check when I get home.

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    That would be rad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddball View Post

    2. I could get an aluminum Transition Spire frame, EXT coil shock and Cascade link for $2k used.

    3. My friend has offered to sell me a current generation Sentinel, either frame only or full bike. Sounds like the build would be fairly similar to the parts I have in terms of beef.

    Mix of midweek pedaling and weekend shuttling/park. I like racing local enduros but am not particularly competitive yet. The old bike had similar geo to a size Large Spire, which feels pretty good.
    I was more comfortable going faster on a spire than I was on my sentinel, but the amount depended on how straight and chunky vs not the trail and I -think- largely a function of Zeb vs 36. (Didn't run the Spire in the low setting as it was borrowed). It felt ponderous when things get tight and the returns diminish. If you're moving parts around already and plan to throw the mezzer on the sentinel I think I'd safely say that you will continue to be rider-limited not bike-limited. I am currently in that boat with one embarrassing event under my belt.

    Also the only thing better than one bike is two bikes. Duh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxtar View Post
    You wanted a Firebird.
    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    Its funny, at the time yes.

    I bought the Stumpy Evo, Ran it slacker and longer with an X2 for a season.
    Now I'm not riding anything too rowdy anymore so I'm back on the Float X with it shorter and steeper. Probably could've stuck with the Switchblade after all!

    I will say, I sold the SB to a friend who rode it 4x harder than I ever did, so it's not about the bike - it's about the rider.
    Firebird and Switchblade are so, so similar to each other. Lots of overlap.
    Pedaling is pretty much the same. You really only notice which one you're on when the trail gets very tight and technical or very steep and rowdy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Looking for a Duffel fleet for the family. Basically, big enough to put all the crap in for a bike gear go-bag. Race/overnight, just the bike stuff. Helmet, shoes, change of close, hydro pack ….
    Figure something more cube/rectangle that somewhat holds its shape and possibly shoulder straps? 35/40L?
    Any recommendations on something that makes life easer vs a jumbled bag with a zipper?
    Under $50 each would be nice, if the style works I’ll spend money on something similar when they fall apart.
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    Friends from college started Orucase, and their duffle is really slick.

    https://www.orucase.com/collections/...44492678922495

    EDIT: just saw your price constraint. this one's definitely outside it.
    Amazon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phall View Post
    Friends from college started Orucase, and their duffle is really slick.

    https://www.orucase.com/collections/...44492678922495
    Not to be a dick but you might want to suggest to your buds that a product video works better if it actually shows features of the product.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    After the first three seconds, Corbet's is really pretty average.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Malcolm View Post
    I mean, it's not your fault. They say talent skips a generation.
    But hey, I'm sure your kids will be sharp as tacks.

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    Thanks, looks nice but not spending $450 for 3 duffles.
    So the world is filled with tubular entities. Food goes in one end and shit comes out the other. Sperm goes in and babies come out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    That would be rad.
    Searched today and couldn't find it. Must have been in my giveaway pile when I bought a bike with Transmission. Sorry.

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    Thanks for looking!
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    What is the advantage of the fox floating axle opposed to just using a bolt on axle with the QR floating bushing thing?

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    Is there a thread on bike travel bags or is it buried in here somewhere? Is Evoc the one to go with?

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