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  1. #6676
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    When my Silca finally shit the bed, I got one of these - which is solidly built and appears to be "serviceable" in that most of the pump is assembled with actual fasteners/has modular parts:

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    Back in the day Beto pumps were 25$ at MEC, I've seen them rebadged for twice the $$ so I bought 3 and they all still work
    Still going strong after 20+ years. I usually don't have trouble seating Maxxis tires with it. When I do, I have a box of CO2 cartridges that do the job.

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  3. #6678
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    The^^ price did go up to 29$ and then the product dissapeared but the beto were so cheap & reliable I had one in the shed, one in the front entrance one at the GF's house
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    Bosch Easy Pump with Silca Hero Air Chuck attached is the ultimate weapon.
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    But Iím a tool nerd/tool whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    Bosch Easy Pump with Silca Hero Air Chuck attached is the ultimate weapon.
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    But Iím a tool nerd/tool whore.
    I use this. Actually, I could have 4 of them for the same price as the Bosch.


  6. #6681
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    Ya, but itís a Bosch, and only available in Europe.
    Built in battery with USB charger, digital readout, programmable pressure shut offÖ.
    I know German factory thatís itís made in.
    No offense, but the Bosch is not HomeDepot Chinese junk, but I bet it will last longer that your 4 Ryobis.

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    ^^ We have Bosch built in microwave oven digital display that has shat the bed for the second time in six years. Replacement runs around $200 for parts and labor by the dealer.

    Every brand has lemons. ymmv.

  8. #6683
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    Fuck me! Finally seated. I guess I learned something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Fuck me! Finally seated. I guess I learned something new.
    ... that it's easier to install a new tire if you first remove the wheel from the bicycle?
    Quote Originally Posted by powder11 View Post
    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Fuck me! Finally seated. I guess I learned something new.
    You put it on backwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannynoonan View Post
    You put it on backwards
    Iím dying here! Been there too many times!


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    If yer bike wasnít upside down, youíd figure out which way it rollsÖ.
    I see a repair stand in the photoÖ

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannynoonan View Post
    You put it on backwards
    No wonder it wouldn't seat.


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    Tire looks fine to me but I think the bike was built backwards and upside down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannynoonan View Post
    You put it on backwards
    It's for teh brakings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    If yer bike wasn’t upside down, you’d figure out which way it rolls….
    I see a repair stand in the photo…
    Oh man, so funny! I just got a repair stand last year, maybe two years now, but I cannot put a wheel on a bike when it's in the repair stand. I can, but it is such a pia! (not a bike mechanic!)

    And after the fiasco, including my compressor needing work, I would not be surprised if I put the tire on backwards.

    Now my valve on this old wheel off a stock 2018 Enduro that I use for my 'shoulder season' riding with a 2.8 tire failed. It's the most odd looking valve. A normal valve would not seat, so here I am again dealing with a f'n tire.

    If I wasn't laughing I'd be crying. Like my kid said, you really should just surf, it's so much easier than dealing with bike shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Fuck me! Finally seated. I guess I learned something new.
    Can you share with the class what you learned so that perhaps we can all learn ?

    So did you put the tire on with the logo at the valve so you know where it was on the rim in case it still has a hole ?

    I sometimes forget and maybe its less of an issue with tubeless
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    Yeah, the logo is pro. I go amateur and use the one sided logo.

    What I learned? Bikes can be a complete pain in the ass! All you kooks helped and honestly, this chick convinced me to work the bead manually, which I did, but only 1/4 of the way would hold, then I used my shoulder, foot, bicep, and both hands to get air into and manipulate the tire til it caught hold.
    https://youtu.be/4rkbkjNvPdk

    And I just went to my local shop and brought them some local brews and they gave me the right toobless valve for the 2.8 tire I'm mounting now.

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    ok I watched it so she put as much of the bead on the rim as possible with tire levers and then used a floorpump

    never heard of it but good to know
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

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    I posted that vid sometime this summer after fighting a particularly stubborn tire. It works really well, haven't had any issues sitting tires with a regular pump since I started using that trick.
    "Your wife being mad is temporary, but pow turns do not get unmade" - mallwalker the wise

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    All that wrestling and frantic pumping looks very unpleasant.
    Itís funny, because for her strategy, a dry tire/rim allowed the bead to stay put once she wrestled it in place. But for the air pumping, sheís fighting that same dry friction with the pump.
    One thing thatís rarely discussed with the more typical soapy water routine is why the soapy water helps. Most people think itís to create some resistance against escaping air. It also goes a long way in letting the bead slip up onto the rim.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andeh View Post
    I got a Commencal DJ last year because the county is supposed to be building a pumptrack at the park by my house. That's stalled until this spring, but I have messed around on some other stuff. I can't jump for shit still, but since I ride MTB 99.9% of the time, I really wish I'd gotten the biggest Transition frame available instead, just to have reach closer to what I'm used to. The DJ feels so fucking short and twitchy and weird every time I get on it.
    What size is your Commencal, and how tall are you?

    I'm considering flipping my Norco and getting something a bit longer. I'm not sure how much longer to go. I'm 5'8" and ride medium trail bikes (450ish reach).

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    Sometimes I resort to a tie down strap around the tread of the tire to force the bead against the rim. Less work than her secret but doesnít always work so Iíll try her secret next time


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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketchecker View Post
    Sometimes I resort to a tie down strap around the tread of the tire to force the bead against the rim. Less work than her secret but doesnít always work so Iíll try her secret next time


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    Yeah, I couldn't get that to work. But in hindsight I would have work the bead out with a tire iron as well as strap down.

    2.8 went on no problem.

    Is this better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    Yeah, I couldn't get that to work. But in hindsight I would have work the bead out with a tire iron as well as strap down.

    2.8 went on no problem.

    Is this better?
    Well, it's an improvement. I mean the bike is at least right side up now but it's still backwards and now you have too many wheels and tires.

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