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    I've got a OneUp Dropper in wife's bike because the seat tube wouldn't fit a long enough BikeYoke.
    It's got a pretty stiff lever action. Tried several different levers until finally going with the Wolftooth long lever, (aka Light Action) which helped a bit. Getting ready to pull it out and swap the cartridge. Wondering if ..........

    The Question: Anyone use super premium cable and housing to lighten up dropper post lever action? The internal routing for this thing is such a massive pain in the ass, I feel like this is my only window to realistically do it. So, do I pay $40+ for some high end roadie shit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    I've got a OneUp Dropper in wife's bike because the seat tube wouldn't fit a long enough BikeYoke.
    It's got a pretty stiff lever action. Tried several different levers until finally going with the Wolftooth long lever, (aka Light Action) which helped a bit. Getting ready to pull it out and swap the cartridge. Wondering if ..........

    The Question: Anyone use super premium cable and housing to lighten up dropper post lever action? The internal routing for this thing is such a massive pain in the ass, I feel like this is my only window to realistically do it. So, do I pay $40+ for some high end roadie shit?
    Check the connection between the housing ferrule and the post. You'll notice the OneUp has a very shallow shoulder holding the ferrule in place. Maybe 1/8" at best. Any side pressure on the cable can allow the ferrule to be dislodged if there's the slightest amount of slack in the cable. It was a huge issue with my wife's Hightower where the seat tube had something internal pushing the cable sideways when inserted fully. I finally had to swap to the new Fox Transfer Perf Elite post.
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    Thinking about trying some 2mm thick rotors for park season. Wife and I inevitably end up with a lot of whatever you call it when they just seem cooked/glazed and howl relentlessly. Warping/bending gets annoying too. Anyone have experience with the Magura or the Galfer rotors? Magura are a lot cheaper. Maybe I'm howling up the wrong tree?
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    I've noticed that I bend/warp Magura rotors less than when I ran Shimano, and less again when I switched to running 203 front/rear.

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    Magura are great rotors. Great brakes as well.

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    question - i've got an evil following which i love and have been stoked to get out on a ton. it's gen1, so it's got NON boost spacing

    i just found a pretty insane deal on a Trust Message fork and i'm thinking of snagging it. it IS boost spacing, so obviously i would need to update my wheel as well.

    is there anything wrong with running boost in the front and non-boost in the back? other than it being annoying as hell. it this a dumb as fuck idea? probably, but the deal is insanely good so i'm tempted by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    question - i've got an evil following which i love and have been stoked to get out on a ton. it's gen1, so it's got NON boost spacing

    i just found a pretty insane deal on a Trust Message fork and i'm thinking of snagging it. it IS boost spacing, so obviously i would need to update my wheel as well.

    is there anything wrong with running boost in the front and non-boost in the back? other than it being annoying as hell. it this a dumb as fuck idea? probably, but the deal is insanely good so i'm tempted by it.
    There are spacers you can use to make your non-boost wheel work in a boost fork. As an example here is one off Worldwide that I've never used. https://rb.gy/b5wgmb

    You probably are going to get some pushback on the Trust fork. Some folks think they are the greatest thing ever but others are pretty skeptical. What is your current fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    i just found a pretty insane deal on a Trust Message fork and i'm thinking of snagging it.
    [fires up the popcorn]

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    Quote Originally Posted by RootSkier View Post
    [fires up the popcorn]
    ha yeah, i am tempted since it's a bonkers good deal. i also don't know what the fuck i'm doing here, but i like playing around with shit and trying new things

    Quote Originally Posted by John_B View Post
    There are spacers you can use to make your non-boost wheel work in a boost fork. As an example here is one off Worldwide that I've never used. https://rb.gy/b5wgmb

    You probably are going to get some pushback on the Trust fork. Some folks think they are the greatest thing ever but others are pretty skeptical. What is your current fork?
    i've got a rockshox pike rct3 130mm, 51mm offset. maybe i should just keep that and put this money in the "cheap carbon wheels" piggy bank?

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    Do the experts use a torque wrench for installing center lock rotors/ cassettes? I've always just installed my cassettes with the equivalent of hand squeezing a tire to check pressure, 'that should be good'....

    I've got a torque wrench for bits and bolts but not for that kind of tool, I'm assuming there's a certain wax required for said torque wrench also

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    Firm hand tight is fine. I've never had a cassette back off. I have had a centerlock back off a few times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ticketchecker View Post
    Do the experts use a torque wrench for installing center lock rotors/ cassettes? I've always just installed my cassettes with the equivalent of hand squeezing a tire to check pressure, 'that should be good'....

    I've got a torque wrench for bits and bolts but not for that kind of tool, I'm assuming there's a certain wax required for said torque wrench also
    I use one but mostly because it holds the cassette or centerlock tool in place much better than a regular adjustable wrench and the long handle makes it really nice in high-torque applications. 40 Nm (I think that's the spec) is high enough that you can crank hard and get close enough without risking damage.
    I think torque control is probably much more important at the lower end of the spectrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    ha yeah, i am tempted since it's a bonkers good deal.
    I assume, from this statement, that it is *free*??


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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    I assume, from this statement, that it is *free*??

    ha no, but are they that universally disliked?

    reviews seemed to indicate that they performed incredibly well but looked weird as fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    i've got a rockshox pike rct3 130mm, 51mm offset. maybe i should just keep that and put this money in the "cheap carbon wheels" piggy bank?
    Egregious suggestion I know but you could ride the bike for a few 100 miles and get a good feel for what you like and what you think could be improved before setting a pile of $$ on fire to get a unicorn fork. Without a baseline you're probably going to miss out on all this "performed incredibly well" and will only deal with the bullshit aspects of having a piece of gear nobody understands and wants to work on if you have an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    Egregious suggestion I know but you could ride the bike for a few 100 miles and get a good feel for what you like and what you think could be improved before setting a pile of $$ on fire to get a unicorn fork. Without a baseline you're probably going to miss out on all this "performed incredibly well" and will only deal with the bullshit aspects of having a piece of gear nobody understands and wants to work on if you have an issue.
    yeah that's the thing, if it was a pile of money i would say no. it's not. it's cheap as shit, for obvious reasons. pretty trivial amount of money, and i figure i could always swap the fork back if i didn't like it for whatever reason.

    that said, it's also weird as shit, and with trust now out of business, probably not a smart move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    I use one but mostly because it holds the cassette or centerlock tool in place much better than a regular adjustable wrench and the long handle makes it really nice in high-torque applications. 40 Nm (I think that's the spec) is high enough that you can crank hard and get close enough without risking damage.
    I think torque control is probably much more important at the lower end of the spectrum.
    What wrench do you have?

    Quote Originally Posted by simple View Post
    Firm hand tight is fine. I've never had a cassette back off. I have had a centerlock back off a few times.
    same with cassettes, centerlock is new to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    ha no, but are they that universally disliked?

    reviews seemed to indicate that they performed incredibly well but looked weird as fuck
    Well - add to that completely proprietary (AFAIK) from a company that is Tango Uniform. What could possible go wrong?

    ETA: If it's *disposable* cheap... I say go for it. But accept that it's gonna be a throw-away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    yeah that's the thing, if it was a pile of money i would say no. it's not. it's cheap as shit, for obvious reasons. pretty trivial amount of money, and i figure i could always swap the fork back if i didn't like it for whatever reason.

    that said, it's also weird as shit, and with trust now out of business, probably not a smart move.
    One way to look at it. Which makes me think, I have a hot pink Patagucci fartbag, barely used, stylish faux-fur on the collar, the absolute height of 80s style. Perfect of apres in Deer Valley, retails for $1400, you can have it for $200. You can always go back to your regular touring pants if you don't like it.



    You're right, it's only money. And I bet you'll get mobbed on the Shoreline by people who will want to touch you and your fork. Shit, I get questions all the time about the reverse arch on the Mezzer and it's not that noticeable.
    I say go for it and post a TR!

    Quote Originally Posted by ticketchecker View Post
    What wrench do you have?
    I bought a cheap one ($40ish) a long time ago on Amazon when doing some work on the car. It's a Tacklife with a 3/8" drive (+adapters for smaller and bigger drives) and a torque range of 15ish to 110ish Nm.
    I only use it for rotors, BB, and cassette, for everything else on the bike I use a smaller more precise one which came with my previous bike and maxes at 15 Nm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    you could ride the bike for a few 100 miles and get a good feel for what you like and what you think could be improved before setting a pile of $$ on fire to get a unicorn fork.
    Tgapp pls listen to Boissal here.. that fork is cheap for a reason

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    Back in the freeride days Guys would thro money around they didn't need to spend and then something big breaks cuz a lot of shit broke so they end up walking for the rest of the season,

    if you really need a gear fix go look around the bike store and then just buy a sticker
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    ha no, but are they that universally disliked?

    reviews seemed to indicate that they performed incredibly well but looked weird as fuck
    They perform incredibly well in certain situations, and kinda terribly in other situations. People I know that have / had them are back on traditional forks.

    They're certainly interesting, but I wouldn't spend money on one. Hell, even if someone gave me one for free, it'd take a bit of beer for me to convince myself it was worth the (fairly minimal) time and effort to install it on my bike.

    And yeah, they look weird as fuck. They're distractingly weird looking even while riding.

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    I feel like for a Trust to be a good enough deal for me to consider it, it would have to be cheaper than a rebuild for my current fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boissal View Post
    One way to look at it. Which makes me think, I have a hot pink Patagucci fartbag, barely used, stylish faux-fur on the collar, the absolute height of 80s style. Perfect of apres in Deer Valley, retails for $1400, you can have it for $200. You can always go back to your regular touring pants if you don't like it.



    You're right, it's only money. And I bet you'll get mobbed on the Shoreline by people who will want to touch you and your fork. Shit, I get questions all the time about the reverse arch on the Mezzer and it's not that noticeable.
    I say go for it and post a TR!


    I bought a cheap one ($40ish) a long time ago on Amazon when doing some work on the car. It's a Tacklife with a 3/8" drive (+adapters for smaller and bigger drives) and a torque range of 15ish to 110ish Nm.
    I only use it for rotors, BB, and cassette, for everything else on the bike I use a smaller more precise one which came with my previous bike and maxes at 15 Nm.
    Now I'm kinda interested in your Patagucci suit for sale...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jm2e View Post
    Thinking about trying some 2mm thick rotors for park season. Wife and I inevitably end up with a lot of whatever you call it when they just seem cooked/glazed and howl relentlessly. Warping/bending gets annoying too. Anyone have experience with the Magura or the Galfer rotors? Magura are a lot cheaper. Maybe I'm howling up the wrong tree?
    I've been using Hayes D-Series (1.95 mm) for a couple seasons and they've been most excellent.

    Quote Originally Posted by tgapp View Post
    question - i've got an evil following which i love and have been stoked to get out on a ton. it's gen1, so it's got NON boost spacing

    i just found a pretty insane deal on a Trust Message fork and i'm thinking of snagging it. it IS boost spacing, so obviously i would need to update my wheel as well.

    is there anything wrong with running boost in the front and non-boost in the back? other than it being annoying as hell. it this a dumb as fuck idea? probably, but the deal is insanely good so i'm tempted by it.
    Dude, stop.

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