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  1. #1
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    Unarguable logic to support the death penalty...

    Proof we need to keep the death penalty..

    These guys should die a slow painful death.

    https://unofficialnetworks.com/2019/...-lift-tickets/

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    I'm not so sure...surge pricing would reduce crowding. Personally: I would pay a bit more (especially in great conditions) for shorter lift lines and a less crowded mountain overall. If they raise the price and it is still overcrowded then they are not charging enough. If no one is there on a powder Tuesday in March then they need to lower prices.

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    And if you have a season pass?
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Magic does this if pow days happen on previously planned discount days.
    Live Free or Die

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    And if you have a season pass?
    Surge pricing ride limitations are the new blackout dates.

    Have you considered swapping some lift rides for shopping at one of our sheik, redesigned, premium mall at the base area?

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    See Tom gets it. It's all about maximizing revenue. Not really about skiing, if it ever was. This is America, if you are not maximizing profit at every opportunity, then you are some kind of socialist commie. (I'm still butt hurt by the solitude parking money grab. Fuckers.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    And if you have a season pass?
    I can see a future where a season pass is simply discounted lift tickets on retainer. Buy a $1000 pass and you get $1000 worth of lift tickets based on 20% off window rate that day, that way theyd still be able to stick it to you with surge pricing.

    the surge pricing seems like it wouldnt affect crowding on the 100% deep days, and would only deter folks on the 50-50 days. Overall, i would not be happy at all if this became widespread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbeater View Post
    See Tom gets it. It's all about maximizing revenue. Not really about skiing, if it ever was. This is America, if you are not maximizing profit at every opportunity, then you are some kind of socialist commie. (I'm still butt hurt by the solitude parking money grab. Fuckers.)

    sent from Utah.
    ?? all parking is paid parking now?

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    ^^^ People laugh at me when I tell them this will be coming to Big Sky as well.

    It is money just laying there waiting to be picked up. Murica!!!! Fuck Yeah.
    Mister Man! Mister Man! Mister Man. They left this card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdironRider View Post
    Magic does this if pow days happen on previously planned discount days.
    This is actually the first thing that I thought of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    ?? all parking is paid parking now?
    $5 a car with 4 occupants rising to $20 for Hans Solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbeater View Post
    See Tom gets it. It's all about maximizing revenue. Not really about skiing, if it ever was. This is America, if you are not maximizing profit at every opportunity, then you are some kind of socialist commie. (I'm still butt hurt by the solitude parking money grab. Fuckers.)

    sent from Utah.
    well, actually, it's Europe. I'm almost positive TicketCorner was the company through which we purchased our passes for last year's BBI Europe. It worked great there. All in pricing was very reasonable averaged across several days of skiing. One one Wednesday (? going off memory), lift passes were 10 swiss francs if bought the night prior. And yes, lift lines were short.

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    My point is this: It is a bit hypocritical to simultaneously complain about crowding while hoping that lift ticket prices do not increase. I am not accusing anyone here of this, but just trying to make the point. It is not about maximizing profit- it is about using a resource as efficiently as possible (snow/ski lift/mountain being the resource). If you don't pay more in dollars you will likely end up paying more in time waiting at the lift base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom351 View Post
    My point is this: It is a bit hypocritical to simultaneously complain about crowding while hoping that lift ticket prices do not increase. I am not accusing anyone here of this, but just trying to make the point. It is not about maximizing profit- it is about using a resource as efficiently as possible (snow/ski lift/mountain being the resource). If you don't pay more in dollars you will likely end up paying more in time waiting at the lift base.
    Or is it about whether skiing becomes a sport like yacht racing or polo or whether it remains a sport somewhat attainable for average people (if not for average families). If you're of the Milton Friedman/the--only-thing-that-matters-is-profit school of economics then of course you adjust your pricing to maximize profit (which is what you mean by using a resource as efficiently as possible). But that school of economics is relatively recent in America--1970's if I recall correctly--and people are finally starting to understand the socioeconomic and political downsides of that way of thinking.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/b...porations.html

    Anyway, this is all moot. Either AGW or the measures to mitigate it will kill the industry.

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    Itís pay to play.


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    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


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    Unarguable logic to support the death penalty...



    old man yells at weekend and holiday tickets.
    .....I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml242 View Post


    old man yells at weekend and holiday tickets.
    I am that old man...and I also yell at blackout dates.
    It makes perfect sense...until you think about it.

    No thanks. I'll stick with porn. - Benny

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    I'll add 9am midweek opening times and quad pack jerkoffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not bunion View Post
    ^^^ People laugh at me when I tell them this will be coming to Big Sky as well.

    It is money just laying there waiting to be picked up. Murica!!!! Fuck Yeah.
    I agree, this is definitely coming to Big Sky. $$$$$


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    "Hike up your skirt and grow a dick you fucking crybaby" -what Bunion said to Harry at the top of The Headwaters

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Or is it about whether skiing becomes a sport like yacht racing or polo or whether it remains a sport somewhat attainable for average people (if not for average families). If you're of the Milton Friedman/the--only-thing-that-matters-is-profit school of economics then of course you adjust your pricing to maximize profit (which is what you mean by using a resource as efficiently as possible). But that school of economics is relatively recent in America--1970's if I recall correctly--and people are finally starting to understand the socioeconomic and political downsides of that way of thinking.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/b...porations.html

    Anyway, this is all moot. Either AGW or the measures to mitigate it will kill the industry.
    and then we'll be hiking and skiing. good times.

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