The Official 19/20 Tahoe Ski Snowboard Thread. Plus bonus Bootfitting Recs!

[TahoeBC]

Don’t forget dog shit bags, why even bother to bag it if your not gonna take it????

Had to stop going to one trail head to walk my girlfriends dog, starts off on a pullout off 89 that I guess is a favorite place for folks to take a shit, Before I know it dog is eating human shit, every time. With the unprecedented Heavy Hiker use to camp at local lakes, can only imagine there turning into cesspools

[old goat]

used condoms and syringes and needles FTW.

[dookeyXXX]

https://www.powder.com/stories/news/...to-wear-masks/

[Jay P]

https://www.powder.com/stories/news/...to-wear-masks/

moral grandstanding

[old goat]

I got this message from Placer County and the Town of Truckee:
"(North Lake Tahoe-Truckee, Calif.) -- As leaders and decision makers in the Truckee-Tahoe region, we are constantly looking at health risk in our community and balancing that with its economic vitality. It has become clear to us that our desirable location is experiencing an exceptionally busy influx of weekend visitors that creates an inability to practice safe physical distancing in the most popular areas in our region.

We have serious concerns about crowds and how dense weekend populations impact our COVID-19 containment, our hospital capacity, and our ability to maintain the key recommendation from the California Department of Public Health of maintaining physical separation of at least 6 feet from other people.

Furthermore, Truckee Mayor David Polivy points out that, “We have seen substantial issues with parking, camping, calls for service, complaints about trash, large groups not distancing, and overcrowding in public areas and trails. These issues are all important in preserving our region, and keeping our residents and visitors safe and healthy while also keeping our business community viable.”

This is historically a busy time in our region that has been even further compounded by larger numbers of day visitors than we have seen in previous years. The ability to physically distance in this pandemic is paramount. “With our current environment of uncertainty, and many of our businesses already having to take measures to reduce or close their operations due to an increase in COVID-19 cases, safety must be our top priority,” states Placer County District 5 Supervisor Cindy Gustafson. “We cannot risk a further surge in COVID-19 cases and want to discourage visitation on weekends during what has historically been our peak summer visitation period, and instead see that visitation occur in what are historically less busy time periods in the late summer and fall.”

The North Lake Tahoe and Truckee officials are strongly discouraging visitors from coming to the region on weekends through at least August 17, 2020, after which time they believe that visitation levels will subside to more manageable levels and better allow physical distancing of 6 feet between people to occur. We will continue to monitor our population influx, and will update any recommendations about visitation as needed."

Good luck with people paying attention to that.

Truckee Council is also planning to vote on a ban on overnight parking along Donner Lake and on West River St, presumably to deal with illegal camping. It's on the consent calendar so I assume a done deal.

http://laserfiche.townoftruckee.com/...o=TRUCKEE&cr=1

[kidwoo]

wow polivy and gustafson

"Strongly discouraging." On what, a facebook page or a county/city webpage no one looks at before coming here? Edgy, guys. Really sticking your neck out there for a desired outcome. I'm sure that will work wonders.

I just bought one of these instead, which I have no doubt will achieve identical efficacy

https://noisyshirts.com/collections/all

[~mikey b]

A Message from Placer County & the Town of Truckee: Visiting the Truckee-Tahoe Region is Strongly Discouraged on Weekends Through August 17, 2020

(North Lake Tahoe-Truckee, Calif.) -- As leaders and decision makers in the Truckee-Tahoe region, we are constantly looking at health risk in our community and balancing that with its economic vitality. It has become clear to us that our desirable location is experiencing an exceptionally busy influx of weekend visitors that creates an inability to practice safe physical distancing in the most popular areas in our region.

We have serious concerns about crowds and how dense weekend populations impact our COVID-19 containment, our hospital capacity, and our ability to maintain the key recommendation from the California Department of Public Health of maintaining physical separation of at least 6 feet from other people.

Furthermore, Truckee Mayor David Polivy points out that, “We have seen substantial issues with parking, camping, calls for service, complaints about trash, large groups not distancing, and overcrowding in public areas and trails. These issues are all important in preserving our region, and keeping our residents and visitors safe and healthy while also keeping our business community viable.”

This is historically a busy time in our region that has been even further compounded by larger numbers of day visitors than we have seen in previous years. The ability to physically distance in this pandemic is paramount. “With our current environment of uncertainty, and many of our businesses already having to take measures to reduce or close their operations due to an increase in COVID-19 cases, safety must be our top priority,” states Placer County District 5 Supervisor Cindy Gustafson. “We cannot risk a further surge in COVID-19 cases and want to discourage visitation on weekends during what has historically been our peak summer visitation period, and instead see that visitation occur in what are historically less busy time periods in the late summer and fall.”

The North Lake Tahoe and Truckee officials are strongly discouraging visitors from coming to the region on weekends through at least August 17, 2020, after which time they believe that visitation levels will subside to more manageable levels and better allow physical distancing of 6 feet between people to occur. We will continue to monitor our population influx, and will update any recommendations about visitation as needed.

Photo taken in downtown Truckee Summer 2018

[teledad]

If they want to keep people from visiting they should shut down hotels and STRs again. My neighbor's house is getting rented 7 days a week.

On shuttles: Yuba Expeditions isn't running but I believe Downieville Outfitters is. No idea on the protocol (I assume masks and open windows). Hoping to get up there in a bit but I think I'll just ride the climb rather than getting in a van with a bunch of random strangers.

Trails in the high Sierra would be great (BTW there's some high altitude MTB and jeep trails southwest of Bishop in the Coyote Flat area) but there's also a ton more that could be done in the Tahoe area. The attitude at Tahoe NF seems to be changing and they're greenlighting more trail projects. Even Placer County is funding trails (MOET). Plus orgs like Truckee Donner Land Trust that are buying private land and building trails. Donate to the Land Trust and volunteer to build trails (except this year, sigh) to help spread people out.

[powdork]

^true, but if you go placer county's facebook page they're all excited about some positive numbers recently regarding coming off the watchlist. I think their big worry is the Lake Tahoe and Truckee parts of the county are going to keep them from reopening. So will they close hotels and str's in the Tahoe and Truckee portions of the county to save the other businesses elsewhere?

[teledad]

Placer's issue is hospitalizations at Sutter Health in Roseville, not case rates in Tahoe. The number of cases in Tahoe City, Kings Beach, etc. are tiny compared to Roseville, Lincoln, and Auburn. Nevada County is a different story with the majority of cases in Truckee, but not yet high enough to be on the watchlist.

[old goat]

Another STR group with at least 3 cars moved in next door. This doesn't really contribute to local cases, but to cases wherever the folks come from. If Truckee is serious about controlling weekend crowds they could ban STRs and hotels on the weekends.Move in after say 3 PM Sunday, out on Friday. That would give some of the virus time to die, and for the unit to get a proper cleaning.

Edit 5 cars

[Powcruzer]

Ban gasoline. Then they couldn’t get here.

[powdork]

Are you sure it wouldn't count toward local cases? Placer has 53 covid cases in the hospital. only 23 are from Placer county. Just curious.

[bodywhomper]

Many of the foothill rivers and creeks are also getting trashed. Record #s of visitors and trash. SYRCL is not doing its river ambassador greeting program at public access points because of covid and it seems directly related to volume of trash being left behind. There have been multiple air ambulance extractions because on-ground emergency vehicles have not been able to get to staging areas/parking lots due to illegal parking.

The popular bike trailheads near Grass Valley are more crowded than ever. There’s additional parking available at one of them and it’s typically packed.

You all see the news about the big party broken up at spooner? TNF broke up another large gathering (ecstatic dance) at bullards bar as it was just getting started. The ignorant stupid shithead asshole that organized the one on July 4th in western Nevada County was Josh Adair (aka Josh Swahe). Positive cases continue to grow because of his efforts.

Nevada County shut down a few restaurants, but the owners are still operating, as of yesterday. Congressman LaMalfa visited one of the restaurants in a political stunt a few weeks ago.

On shuttles: Yuba Expeditions isn't running but I believe Downieville Outfitters is. No idea on the protocol (I assume masks and open windows). Hoping to get up there in a bit but I think I'll just ride the climb rather than getting in a van with a bunch of random strangers.

What I observed on Tuesday, while driving in the opposite direction on hwy 49, was a single large van (15 passenger?) with a shit ton of bikes. I can’t remember if it was towing a trailer. I didn’t notice any windows open.

[heckacali]

Those vans don't really have operable windows to roll down like a car, except on the 2 front doors.
And yes, fully loaded shuttle vans, and lots of cars/bikers in Dville, good news is most are wearing masks in town.

[powdork]

Found the article about the party on Spooner Summit. It also included this gem.
"On Saturday night, a woman was arrested for trespassing at Harveys Casino after she became combative when asked to don a mask.
The 28-year-old Stockton woman reportedly fought with casino security around 10:50 p.m. when deputies arrived.
They saw she was restrained by several security officers who had her handcuffed.
Deputies took charge of her and had to carry her, spitting and kicking, across the casino floor into the detention area."

people suck
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/ne...s-on-saturday/

[meter-man]

F that Josh Swahe guy.

Truckee's COVID webpage isn't aligned at all with their IG post. https://www.truckee.com/covid-19-updates/

It's crowded AF up here. The afternoon thunderstorms have been awesome, but we need some snow to chase off the crowds. That'll work, right??

[bodywhomper]

I wonder if she ^^^ was “leather and feathers” with a head full of acid?

State parks just closed all parking on Yankee Jim’s Road (north fork American river), effective today, because of overuse.

Here’s a press release about the problem on the south Yuba: https://yubanet.com/regional/loved-t...visitor-surge/

Driving 49 north of grass valleys mid-day on weekdays, the crowds are VERY heavy at the middle yuba, Oregon creek, and north Yuba. People on the streets in d-ville and Sierra City.

[duffski]

that tribune article originally had the link to the gofundme to help pay the fines for that illegal party on spooner but i guess they decided to take it off after people complained. you can find the gofundme here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/emerald-b...-and-bail-fund
a link on that gofundme page to their facebook page has a sort of apology for their stupidity.

[~mikey b]

unbelievably, my ex-wife is taking our son and meeting some friends from the bay area to hang out in SV this weekend

[Mokomahonah]

unbelievably, my ex-wife is taking our son and meeting some friends from the bay area to hang out in SV this weekend

I believe it.

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[Robojerry]

The remoteness of the high Sierra alpine, the difficulty of access in many amazing places, and the lack of bike traffic is one of my favorite things about living in this range.

I’m a climber not a biker though so I’m looking at it from a different lens.

The fact that there’s 14ers here that require 4wd and a good sense of direction just to get to the TH not to mention 7500’ or more of sagewacking and manzanita bashing is cool to me. The mountains in Colorado seem tame and overrun.

I do wish we had the quality of fly fishing they have there, though.

I haven’t hear any complaining about my friends here that do own bikes. “World class” is the term I keep hearing thrown around.

I would personally be against bikes in the wilderness. Just one mans opinion.


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[meter-man]

RJ, I hear you - I used to be of similar mindset.

But there are lots of places that bike trails could go, even really close to roads, that would vastly improve riding opportunities, without even talking about areas that would get anywhere close to Wilderness or the wilderness experience.

As KW notes, there is not a single bike-legal trail anywhere in the vicinity of Ebbetts Pass, Sonora Pass, Tioga Pass, nothing out of Pine Creek, nada in the Bishop Creek drainages (well one trail...), nothing coming out of Big Pine Creek, nothing out of Onion Valley, nothing out of Whitney Portal, etc etc etc. That's the entire friggin range.

There's nothing even where the existing state highways run. That's a massive amount of terrain right there.

Bike trails outside of the major highway and trailhead corridors are another story, and certainly more contentious.

But surely, there must be somewhere that bikes could be allowed in the high mountains of the Sierra that would not ruin the remainder of the 200+long, 100mile wide Sierra Nevada.

As of now...ain't none, hun.

[kidwoo]

The fact that there’s 14ers here that require 4wd

Is "4wd" like bushwacking hiking slang? Because the only 14k mountain you can get a vehicle anywhere near is White mountain. Not being a smartass, serious question.

No one wants to run you over with a bike or even 'take over' an existing trail. Just allow some sort of bike access in the remaining "wilderness to be" that's left. The high elevation stuff has far more room to spread out than people realize. What I'm suggesting is creating some mixed use access that as a climber or hiker would not affect you one iota. Not seen, not heard, just in a section where your current recreation patterns don't occur.

The truckee mayor saying one thing and the town covid page saying another is just wonderful.

[skier666]

Man, caught up reading this thread and it makes me look at Tahoe differently.

I'm still in Telluride and its been heavenly. Its only on the weekends where you see an influx of people on main street but I'd say almost everyone is wearing a mask. You do see a ton of Texas and Arizona plates which can be worrisome but then again I have California plates and it doesn't have a sticker saying 'been here since early June.' Its easy here to avoid the masses. Still low covid positivity even after a slight uptick over July 4th. Kinda feel guilty being here having fun and kind of isolated.

However, it was interesting this morning. My son is in a baseball tournament (that alone seems crazy) down in Mancos, CO (about 80 miles South) and there's was not one mask to be seen. It was odd coming from Telluride. I looked up the stats for the county down there and there's been only 90 or so positive cases since March. Its not a big tourist spot, so that probably helps.