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01-17-2020, 04:17 PM #1051
Yeah, I kind of assumed it was trauma from tumbling over rocks, etc. - the coverage over on that face was well behind most of the mountain / resort. Ugh, that's just horrible.
This is in NO way placing any blame on the victims, obviously, but the next time conditions are like this I'm going to pay closer attention to run-out zones since a beacon can't save you from rocks / trees. Something I will certainly keep in mind.
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01-17-2020, 04:23 PM #1052
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01-17-2020, 04:34 PM #1053Registered User
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The Official 19/20 Tahoe Ski Snowboard Thread. Plus bonus Bootfitting Recs!
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01-17-2020, 05:00 PM #1054
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01-17-2020, 05:36 PM #1055Registered User
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Such a bummer. Was wondering what the heli and ambulance was about when we were walking up.
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01-17-2020, 07:00 PM #1056
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01-17-2020, 07:09 PM #1057
The Official 19/20 Tahoe Ski Snowboard Thread. Plus bonus Bootfitting Recs!
S@T opened grandview at 8:30 this morning for passholders, managed 4th chair and had 6 really good laps before it got to crowded for my taste.
Lacking seeing any naturals avys on the way up and a good late afternoon report from yesterday at Waterhouse decided to poke around in the BC a bit. After climbing 1000 feet of vert I pulled the plug because of to many red flags, whooping, shooting cracks, poor pit results and a visual of a natural slide which occurred in the trees. As I transitioned to ski a safe route back down I got a call about the inbounds avy fatality at alpine meadows, RIP fellow skier, use a lot of caution out there!
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01-17-2020, 07:17 PM #1058Registered User
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Wow tragic news at Alpine, makes me sick to my stomach. Stay safe out there y'all.
Squaw was deepo in many spots today but still a surprising amount of ice and rock lurking beneath. Interesting conditions. Saw a lot of people setting off small slabs.
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01-17-2020, 07:45 PM #1059Registered User
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Super sad to hear he passed away, I saw him getting chest compressions and immediately got shivers. Sure doesn’t seem like a ton could have been done on his part besides not skiing today, anyone have any tips on how to avoid situations like these besides not skiing (in terms of inbounds avalanches)? Obviously try to ski one at a time on avalanche prone terrain, but even then, injuries resulted from trauma due to the surrounding environment and not due to being buried which skier separation can’t help nor can a beacon/prove/shovel. Only thing I can think of is maybe an avy backpack....but even then you’re along for the ride. Just looking to possibly better my awareness of inbounds avalanche terrain and personal skills. Thoughts out to the friends and family of the skiers affected.
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01-17-2020, 09:08 PM #1060
The Alpine news does put a damper on a decent pow day.
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01-17-2020, 09:13 PM #1061
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01-17-2020, 11:25 PM #1062
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01-18-2020, 12:04 AM #1063
No, and that's what makes this so real. I would ski exactly that.
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01-18-2020, 01:16 AM #1064
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01-18-2020, 02:03 AM #1065
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01-18-2020, 03:34 AM #1066Registered User
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Sorry to hear about this...
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01-18-2020, 07:11 AM #1067one-track mind
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2 skiers had severe outcomes in this case. I don't have any strong tips to decrease it from 2 down to 0, but don't downplay the "one at a time" strategy, even for trauma risks instead of burial risks. Not sure about all the details of this case, but maybe there might have been ways that they could have decreased it from 2 down to 1...which would still be a bad outcome, but at least not as bad as 2 men down.
And who knows? It's possible that some slabs might hold 1 skier at a time without incident, but not hold the weight and impacts of 2 skiers descending at the same time.
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01-18-2020, 07:55 AM #1068
which is why this ski patrol job is so difficult and stressful
imagine someone getting hurt or killed on a route you just ran
I think about that shit a lotI didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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01-18-2020, 08:25 AM #1069
hug a patroller
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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01-18-2020, 10:10 AM #1070
My son and I were skiing Flute at WB. One side of Sluie's had slid. My son decided to ski the other side; I went elsewhere. Perhaps my decision was based on the fact that the run is named after a guy killed there, prior to the time the slope was controlled. On run 2 my son cut into a slope under a big cornice, I went elsewhere. My son is an ex-Squaw pro patroller. I have no formal avalanche training except beacon training. Neither slope slid.
I've skied at Squaw on a day when there was a patroller at the top of KT checking everyone for a beacon, but they weren't requiring them, just warning. There are certainly places where skiing with gear and a partner is mandatory. When we skied Big Couloir at Big Sky we skied one at a time.
So by skiing an avalanche prone slope you double your chance of dying. I can't recall every skiing death in this area over the last 40 years but I'd say that the numbers killed in a crash are higher than the number killed by slides, but not orders of magnitude higher.
Imagine a patroller with a family getting killed so that the rest of us can have fun. There's been three around here in recent years, one while my son was working (he was off that day). I think about that a lot.
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01-18-2020, 10:11 AM #1071
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01-18-2020, 10:14 AM #1072
I hear ya Mike.
About 10 yrs ago at Mt Hood Meadows, Patrol was concerned about slides in the Clarks and Heather drainages that converge into one path. So they shot the area with their howitzer.
Nothing
So they sent over a couple of AC guys to check more. They threw hand charges, cut, stomped, dug pits, etc.
Nothing
So they opened the area. People skied on it all day
Nothing
That night it slid -big - like a 10’ crown, take out the lower lift terminal big.
The release was just above the spot where the howitzer rounds landed.
Thanks for the work you do.
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01-18-2020, 10:15 AM #1073
They're still bombing at Sugar Bowl this morning.
A couple of years ago after a huge storm I counted 35 bomb holes on a little slope at Squaw a couple hundred yards wide and maybe 500 vertical feet high. It didn't slide. (The area looker's left of Tower 16, I forget the name.)
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01-18-2020, 10:24 AM #1074
we made a lot of bomb holes yesterday and had a few good slides.
I didn't believe in reincarnation when I was your age either.
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01-18-2020, 12:47 PM #1075
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