The Official 19/20 Tahoe Ski Snowboard Thread. Plus bonus Bootfitting Recs!

[powdork]

Montbleu security guard getting assaulted by car club members. The IG owner seems abit confused on jurisdiction here
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD9MpQdBU-K/

[Creeker]

What was the ski hill off 88 that you drove to the top of, instead of the base? Iron Mountain, wasn't it? Never went there myself.

Iron Mountain. We had High School ski team camps there prior to shut down.

My brother and I even did a dysfunctional photo shoot with the one and only Splat in the early ‘00’s. (Dysfunctional owners of a decaying former ski resort, not Splat).

[heckacali]

And this is why I don't SLT (except for the hockey rink)

[TahoeBC]

Montbleu security guard getting assaulted by car club members. The IG owner seems abit confused on jurisdiction here
https://www.instagram.com/p/CD9MpQdBU-K/

Stateline inviting all the trash to come here, these fuckers where racing up and down 89 all night in there rice rockets

Meanwhile in Loyalton tornado fires

[bobz]

What was the ski hill off 88 that you drove to the top of, instead of the base? Iron Mountain, wasn't it? Never went there myself.

It called itself Carson Peak (or something close to that) in its final gasp before closing for good. I skied there a number of times, because it was just a little closer than Kirkwood (and cheaper). Despite being one of the larger ski areas in California (that is, if measured in acreage), it had precious little advanced terrain. Still, there was some good glade skiing to be had on the right kind of day. There's now a Sno-Park at or close to the old resort, popular with the snowmobile crowd.

[CC_skier]

Smoke is real in Truckee Meadows right now. Photo below is from Reno Gazette-Journal of the smoke plume and pyrocumulus cloud yesterday, generally from the vantage point where I live. As of right now, that hill slope is totally obscured by smoke. Sunlight has been a weird, apocalyptic orange glow most of the day. Smells like straight campfire outside, and you can't really stand to comfortably be outside for more than 5 minutes.

[CC_skier]

Cause of fire lightning (obviously, with the weather we've had the past few days). This sounds like a pretty big fire, and it sounds like it'll be difficult for fire crews to get a handle on it with the weather being as wacky as it is. I know this is a belabored point, but a natural fire like this is what makes human-caused fires so frustrating to me. Fire crews in NV/NorCal have been scattered putting out fires from people shooting guns, starting actual camp fires, dropping their cigs, pretty much any careless behavior that involves fire. Now we have a big blow up from lightning, and crews are spread across Nevada from chasing down fires that shouldn't have started in the first place.

[old goat]

Loyalton Fire was 2000 acres yesterday, 30,000 this afternoon. I'm assuming the two fires NNE of it are spot fires? If so that looks like a long way for spot fires?
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6975/

[Powcruzer]

Yep. Those morons laid enough rubber on Kingsbury last night to make it look like an F1 track.

Stateline inviting all the trash to come here, these fuckers where racing up and down 89 all night in there rice rockets

Meanwhile in Loyalton tornado fires

[CC_skier]

Loyalton Fire was 2000 acres yesterday, 30,000 this afternoon. I'm assuming the two fires NNE of it are spot fires? If so that looks like a long way for spot fires?
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6975/

The one in Nevada at least is the Poodle Fire, I believe. Haven’t heard much about it but I’m pretty sure it was a separate start, it’s been going for a weekish now.

Yeah, 2000 acres to 30,000 in like 30 hours is pretty frightening. Drove to Galena Creek yesterday morning, thought “huh those clouds look funny,” then driving back after running realized what I was actually looking at. Angry fire.


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[CC_skier]

Loyalton Fire was 2000 acres yesterday, 30,000 this afternoon. I'm assuming the two fires NNE of it are spot fires? If so that looks like a long way for spot fires?
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/6975/

I was being dumb and looking at the website on my phone, which doesn't show the shaded GIS layer of active fires. That is a pretty big jump for a spot fire.

[lepistoir]

http://triangle-transportation.com/r...he-draft-plan/


They are taking comments until the 17th if you want to talk about your thoughts on no. Tahoe transportation. Gondolas as long term solutions was my comment. Using existing infrastructure is such a short term solution. We need gov to start thinking 20+ years out, not just what to help this next year.

Please think long term and protect the basin as a national treasure, not just as a landscape that can be exploited for tourism dollars. Locals live here and create the unique culture that draws visitors. Heavy traffic chokes locals and the lake. There need to be serious alternatives to not just limit but severely reduce car usage in the basin (and probably out to Truckee too since that is the ultimate goal of many trips from Placer County on the north shore.
Consider a charge for cars entering the basin. A 20-mile/hour speed limit in neighborhoods like Tahoma, Tahoe City, and Kings Beach off the main thoroughfares would be simple and really make it clear how fast people are going when they zoom through these areas at 30+. Bike paths should be planned to connect much more than typically envisioned for human-powered exercise and recreation because ebikes are becoming more widespread and a viable alternative to many car trips. There needs to be a frequent and reliable bus system (no more than 15-minutes between buses) so that people can comfortably depend on buses (supplemented with taxis) for transportation that eliminates the need for parking. It might make more sense to have on-demand shuttles and vans for groups that want to take paddleboards, mountain bikes or other bulky outdoor equipment to activity venues around the basin. The transportation plan should incorporate the effects of, and in return influence, the number and location of homes-turned-hotels AKA short-term rentals. If the infrastructure can't handle every bedroom double-occupied with a corresponding number of cars, then we shouldn't allow that many rentals! Talk to Amtrak about a Friday evening and Sunday afternoon service specifically for Bay Area/Sacramento weekend visitors. Then design a system that makes it possible for people to enjoy Tahoe without bringing their car. We need a serious bi-county assessment of transportation to/from Truckee, up to and including options that do not require additional right-of-way such as a gondola (sky tram). Let's keep Tahoe's rural character and make it livable for those of us who call it home instead of maxing out on visitor volume. Thank you for your time and attention to make a plan that considers all of us.

[powpig]

Locals ....... create the unique culture that draws visitors.

Get real! No one comes here because of whatever culture is created by the locals.
They come here for the lake, the mountains and nature.
Unless you mean the few that come here for the gambling, then yeah, that culture does draw visitors.

Heavy traffic chokes locals and the lake.

Placer County took a 4 lane State highway through Kings Beach and shrunk it to a 2 lane highway.
It was a terrible idea meant to increase foot traffic to the local businesses. It doesn't take a math whiz to realize less lanes=more traffic. The resulting daily gridlock should surprise no one.

Consider a charge for cars entering the basin.

So every time I come back from visiting my girlfriend in Donner, or after skiing Squaw or Alpine, or after a softball game in Truckee (assuming we can play next summer), or making a Reno run, I should pay a charge for coming back home?
You're out of your fucking mind!

[lepistoir]

I rode the tamarack lake trail from Mt Rose ski area to the summit and snapped this pic of Reno completely hot boxed. With the southwest wind, the basin was clear but I smelled campfire the whole time. There was enough ash landing on the car in two hours of riding to create a cloud when I opened my car doors. I’ve contacted folks I know to offer help. Just sending ++vibes for now.




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[m71bd9]

wow, it really amazing...

[powdork]

So every time I come back from visiting my girlfriend in Donner, or after skiing Squaw or Alpine, or after a softball game in Truckee (assuming we can play next summer), or making a Reno run, I should pay a charge for coming back home?
You're out of your fucking mind!

I think every time something like this has been mentioned it's pretty much a given those with local address would be exempt. For instance, with Echo summit closing in september now is the time to get your Johnson Pass road ID.

[truckeelocal]

Placer County took a 4 lane State highway through Kings Beach and shrunk it to a 2 lane highway.
It was a terrible idea meant to increase foot traffic to the local businesses. It doesn't take a math whiz to realize less lanes=more traffic. The resulting daily gridlock should surprise no one.

Choking traffic is a way to either get folks out of their car (I walk to town during Truckee Thursdays/weekends if I need to go at all) or smooth traffic demand. And much of the Kings Beach traffic is going to the tax free haven of Incline where Californians who have mad good coin want to evade paying taxes for the infrastructure that allowed them to make big coin. Screw 'em.

Sometimes personal transportation needs to take a back seat to lifestyle. Evidence the closing of streets in the center of European towns to allow PEOPLE access and use. What a concept !

[Redsmurfer]

I feel for the residents of Kings Beach. They should have just left the improvements to the sidewalks and not installed the round abouts. As for incline residents being beneficiaries, hardly. It now sucks even more to move around the north shore. We now are boxed in by Sand harbor traffic and Kings beach traffic plus everybody from the growing Galena and Reno area coming over the pass with all their water toys. Add to it, the college is growing and STR occupancy is very high, and the new shoreline trail and popularity of the flume trail and its shuttles, plus the new tyrolean downhill reroute amusement ride and you have and will continue to have a big increase in visitation to the north shore and a lot of that traffic is coming through Kings Beach.

PS. tons of ebikes riding up from town onto old mt. rose highway and into the Rim and incline flume trail area. The genie is out of bottle and it is not going back in. I wonder how long it is going to be until other user groups start freaking out about the speed and constant bike traffic. I already hear quite a bit grumbling about Rim Trail poaching and ebike use.

PSS. Ivgid levels their own taxes on the local property owners to pay for the infrastructure facilities. These fees are constantly increasing too.

[powpig]

Choking traffic is a way to either get folks out of their car (I walk to town during Truckee Thursdays/weekends if I need to go at all) or smooth traffic demand. And much of the Kings Beach traffic is going to the tax free haven of Incline where Californians who have mad good coin want to evade paying taxes for the infrastructure that allowed them to make big coin. Screw 'em.

Sometimes personal transportation needs to take a back seat to lifestyle. Evidence the closing of streets in the center of European towns to allow PEOPLE access and use. What a concept !

Caltrans' chief responsibilities are the smooth flow of traffic & road safety. NOT "lifestyle"!
They ignored what should have been their only priority and instead signed off on what you describe as "lifestyle"
The result is gridlock.
A poor choice and decision in my opinion.
That you applaud and are happy with this decision only proves my opinion is not shared by all.
The resulting traffic increase through the backstreets, again, should be a surprise to no one.
Are you gonna sing the same tune to the folks who aren't happy their quiet streets aren't quite so quiet anymore? "Screw 'em"?

[bodywhomper]

Long term traffic modeling is all about the assumptions cooked into the model.

[truckeelocal]

Caltrans' chief responsibilities are the smooth flow of traffic & road safety. NOT "lifestyle"!

Tut tut !
Part of CalTrans mission is "Caltrans carries out its mission of providing a safe, sustainable, integrated and efficient transportation system to enhance California's economy and livability"
The highlight is mine. Having 4 lanes of traffic through a recreational town wasn't working. 2 lanes isn't working either. Solution is 6 lanes ? 8 ? Come on man !

ps. The Grid had through traffic and congestion before the change. At least they got traffic calming measures as part of the change. My guess is that it ending up being a wash for the residents, but I don't know.

[Redsmurfer]

I think one solution might be to look into a by-pass route that goes from 267 to 28 around the north boundary of Kings beach and get a lot of the traffic out of the beach front area. This of course would be $$$ and the enviro impacts would have to be examined closely but in the mean time Kings Beach will suffer. Kinda feel like the town also had a hand in the traffic routing decisions, I pretty sure there was a traffic study but maybe the impacts to the residential streets was a bit under stated. I would also wonder if the air quality has gotten worse. Cannot be good to have all those cars just slowly moving, spewing exhaust. I think a car is the most exhaust efficient when cruising at around 35-45 mph.

[truckeelocal]

And once the Kings Beach issue is sorted out 267 needs to be enhanced from I80. And then Lakeshore Blvd to the traffic circle coming into Incline (I wonder if the casinos want a wider road, losing the 25 mph speed limit and the cross walk ?), and then why not work on 431 over Mount Rose. Where does it stop. Are we to be held hostage to the mighty automobile ? Or should we start recognizing that capitulating to traffic issues just isn't working. We need bigger thinking that gets ME out of my car. I'm part of the problem (but not much - I just walked 6 miles to do my banking).

[teledad]

Or build a new highway over Martis Peak between Incline and Glenshire (cue protests).

Modern cars are pretty efficient at idle, particularly PZEVs. Emissions standards are generally more stringent at idle than at 2500 rpms. (Though obviously sitting in traffic for 20 minutes is worse than driving through in 5 minutes without traffic.)

[Redsmurfer]

Everybody needs to stop breeding and you need an ebike. Problem solved