Page 2 of 9 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... LastLast
Results 26 to 50 of 224
  1. #26
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Big in Japan
    Posts
    36,411
    No way Trump wants to get into a fight that sends US gas prices up maybe 50% in an election year.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  2. #27
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    1,155
    To IAS’s point; do we really need drone drops of items we can live without in an hour at the risk of opening ourselves up to mischievous acts?
    The insta-grat era. Why are humans so dopey?

  3. #28
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    voting in seattle
    Posts
    4,048
    Defeating COTS UAVs is easy unless they are synchronized with an EW effort. Somewhat difficult to detect, but once detected easy to defeat.
    The issue here is the Saudis didn’t plan for an aerial attack on their oil facilities.

  4. #29
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Wet and Mild
    Posts
    4,683
    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Is that my weed coming from the ups-amazon drone, or sweet death coming from the google-DEA assassination drone?

    I should put that sentence on a business card for when people are like “awww, you guys aren’t having any kids?”
    I'll go in on an order of those with you. Can we add "Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us, selfish breeder," on the back?
    Set my compass North, I got Winter in my blood.

  5. #30
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Bull City
    Posts
    4,330
    What kind of drones are we talking about? It it was, in fact, Iran then we might be talking about some pretty sophisticated stuff with stealth capabilities. Remember, Iran has had one of these for several years now and no doubt has reverse engineered/acquired a lot of the technology we built in to it..


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E...Q-170_incident
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

  6. #31
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    STL
    Posts
    8,633
    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    No way Trump wants to get into a fight that sends US gas prices up maybe 50% in an election year.
    I wish you were right, but that guy could hit the button falling out of bed.

  7. #32
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    STL
    Posts
    8,633
    It’s got to be a huge business developing drone weapons and defenses. Everyone is going to need jamming devices.

    I wish I took my RC-10 racing to the next level. I’d be rich.

  8. #33
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,825
    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Is that my weed coming from the ups-amazon drone, or sweet death coming from the google-DEA assassination drone?

    I should put that sentence on a business card for when people are like “awww, you guys aren’t having any kids?”
    What have you done in the wilds of the UP that makes you think you could be an assassination target? And does Amazon even deliver up there? And if they do don't they use canoes?

  9. #34
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Big in Japan
    Posts
    36,411
    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    I wish you were right, but that guy could hit the button falling out of bed.
    For all of the man's faults, and they are beyond numerous, he has proven himself to be quite the non warmonger , thank God. All talk, no hat.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  10. #35
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Cruzing
    Posts
    9,123
    Careful Benny. He has a very easily bruised ego. If he reads your comment, that might be enough to get him to go to war.

  11. #36
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    Bozone
    Posts
    462
    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    What kind of drones are we talking about? It it was, in fact, Iran then we might be talking about some pretty sophisticated stuff with stealth capabilities. Remember, Iran has had one of these for several years now and no doubt has reverse engineered/acquired a lot of the technology we built in to it..


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E...Q-170_incident
    I dunno, remeber stuxnet? I still think that "captured" drone was a total trojan horse.

  12. #37
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Posts
    5,129
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Good thing Bolton aka "Mustache Man" is gone. That dude masterbates furiously to the thought of attacking Iran.

    Trump will do whatever Putin tells him to.
    My favorite tweet from last week

    "I mustache you to resign, John"

  13. #38
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    I smell poutine!!!
    Posts
    8,286
    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    My favorite tweet from last week

    "I mustache you to resign, John"
    lulz

  14. #39
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Bull City
    Posts
    4,330
    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    I dunno, remeber stuxnet? I still think that "captured" drone was a total trojan horse.
    Stuxnet was discovered 2010 been there since 2005. Drone captured 2011. It flew so there was some working technology available for them to copy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

  15. #40
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    YetiMan
    Posts
    10,783
    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    What have you done in the wilds of the UP that makes you think you could be an assassination target?
    I subvert the dominant paradigm.

    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    And does Amazon even deliver up there? And if they do don't they use canoes?
    Here in the wilds, UPS has little brown 4x4 F350s with utility beds and Amazon is dryfucking local businesses to death.

  16. #41
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Location
    Bozone
    Posts
    462
    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    Stuxnet was discovered 2010 been there since 2005. Drone captured 2011. It flew so there was some working technology available for them to copy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
    Not how stuxnet was introduced, it was another way to introduce malicious worms and such into Iran and other player's systems. A trojan horse.

  17. #42
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    STL
    Posts
    8,633
    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    For all of the man's faults, and they are beyond numerous, he has proven himself to be quite the non warmonger , thank God. All talk, no hat.
    Ego can go from 0-100km in under 3 seconds.

  18. #43
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Cruzing
    Posts
    9,123
    ^^^^. This is ‘Mercia. No one knows what the fuck you are taking about. Best to say “0-61 mph”

    Don’t even get started with centigrade. Even though it makes way more sense, you likely just get black stares when you tell someone it is 10 degrees on a mild day.

    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    I subvert the dominant paradigm.



    Here in the wilds, UPS has little brown 4x4 F350s with utility beds and Amazon is dryfucking local businesses to death.
    Pretty sure Amazon is dry fucking the whole world. All that one or two day shipping is fucking up the environment in crazy ways. Not to mention the return shipping when the 8 pair of ski boots you order don’t fit.

  19. #44
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Big in Japan
    Posts
    36,411
    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Ego can go from 0-100km in under 3 seconds.
    Well, it would certainly be the end of him, so that's good. His yahoo base hates the neverending wars, too.

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  20. #45
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Turin, Hugging The Horse
    Posts
    3,374
    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    What kind of drones are we talking about? It it was, in fact, Iran then we might be talking about some pretty sophisticated stuff with stealth capabilities. Remember, Iran has had one of these for several years now and no doubt has reverse engineered/acquired a lot of the technology we built in to it..
    Dont be silly.

    Iran is clever enough to do the moves through the Yemen (Houthi) proxies and not directly implicate themselves. Even after Boltons removal, it is not like the current government likes Iran...
    Smaller drones (of flying wing style) in the 10-20kg weight range can carry 2-3kg HE payload for 30-60km. Launch them from the desert and one is 50km away from the launch site when the drones hit the target. Ad to that utter and total incompetence of saudi military/law enforcement, the culprits can chill out sipping Shai Adeni somewhere in Hodeida.

    What baffles me is that even if saudis spend up to 50-60B (!) annually on defence, they still fail to protect their key infrastructure from simple drone attacks...it is not like there are not any UAV countermeasures available...

    The floggings will continue until morale improves.

  21. #46
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Bull City
    Posts
    4,330
    Quote Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain View Post
    Not how stuxnet was introduced, it was another way to introduce malicious worms and such into Iran and other player's systems. A trojan horse.
    There a gazillian other effective delivery methods available that don't provide them with at least some of the stealth and aerdonymic technology they got from that. If, the virus that took down their nuke sites last year came from that, I'd call it a break even being what else they got of value..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

  22. #47
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Location
    The Bull City
    Posts
    4,330
    Quote Originally Posted by Ottime View Post

    Pretty sure Amazon is dry fucking the whole world. All that one or two day shipping is fucking up the environment in crazy ways. Not to mention the return shipping when the 8 pair of ski boots you order don’t fit.
    Had my heater die Friday. The part I needed for phase one wasn't available anywhere locally. However, Amazon Prime delivered one to my door this morning, SUNDAY. So ya, I was able to take care of a big portion of the job. Rest of the parts are coming Wednesday, but today's work had to happen first. That kind of service is tough to beat. FWIW, odds are it was a mom and pop appliance place that drove the part over to the Amazon fulfillment center late last night. No way the local hub has dozens of gas log fireplace blowers on hand.
    Still not sold on drone delivery yet though. Gonna be a whole lot of busted shit dropped on peoples' porches before they get that ironed out.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

  23. #48
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    OREYGUN!
    Posts
    12,406
    Trump administration declassifies photos of Saudi oil industry targeted by attack showing strikes on 17 different places.

  24. #49
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    50 miles E of Paradise
    Posts
    8,383
    Quote Originally Posted by Meathelmet View Post
    What baffles me is that even if saudis spend up to 50-60B (!) annually on defence, they still fail to protect their key infrastructure from simple drone attacks...it is not like there are not any UAV countermeasures available...
    USA spends $600M per year on defense and yet a small group of Saudis took out the Pentagon and two large buildings in NYC...
    Like SB sez upthread, Asymmetric warfare is tough to contain
    I'm waiting for the Houthis to send in a bunch of RC cars packed with C4...
    Check Out Ullr's Mobile Avalanche Safety Tools for iOS and Android
    www.ullrlabs.com

  25. #50
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Missoula DMV
    Posts
    653
    Quote Originally Posted by SB View Post
    Suicide drones just like the bombers.

    Hard to defend against, you have to shoot them until the whole thing blows up or crashes.

    A similar event could take out large sections of the US power grid. Heck you dont even need drones, mylar balloons will do it.
    Plus there is the added benefit for Allah not having to reward 72 virgins to the next guy that blows himself up. Celibate robots FTW.

    This thread is a very good reminder to people about the possibility of remote control planes. It increases the possibilities for asymmetrical ware fare, and gives additional ammunition to insurgents everywhere. The amount of news coverage this is getting only promotes the idea of drone warfare.

    One benefit that cannot be understated is the fact that a drone is far cheaper and easier to produce/operate than a rocket. After decades upon decades of rocket research, more powers are going to turn to the idea of flying a bomb on remotely. I mean, go to any hobby store, and you'll find all sorts of RC hardware out there for cars/boats/planes/etc. With enough practice, even small-scale belligerents can arm themselves with flying bombs.

    Drone swarms are another subject to consider, but will likely be limited to larger and more complex militaries. It's one thing to remotely operate drones, but coding a swarm to operate is an entirely different challenge. Unless you plan to have a warehouse full of operators flying them, like a call center.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •