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    What's up with Black Crows ski lengths to 0.1cm

    Pet peeve of the day. Black Crows list their skis to the 1/10th of a cm. For example, Camox are available in 174.6, 181.2, and 186.1. Is this just marketing mumbo jumbo or are their skis accurate to 0.1 cm? I'm willing to bet if you measured a decent sample there would be some variance greater than 0.1cm. Also, does it really matter if a ski is 181.2cm or 181cm? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemon10 View Post
    Also, does it really matter if a ski is 181.2cm or 181cm? I don't think so.
    I think you answered your own question. Iím sure thereís some reasoning I just donít know it. If this irks you and makes you pass on the brand - it will be your loss.

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    the nice thing about metric is working in whole numbers (mm)...the decimal is somewhat irrelevant

    but, yeah, graphic design & marketing

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    BC are the absolute kings of marketing.
    They even have you talking about millimeters of ski,


    and now me too

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    Perhaps, but I don't own any, don't plan to buy any, and I'd rather talk about Voile and their marketing-- "it's French for 'Made in the USA'". That's f'in brilliant! How about those Hyper Drifters, they look Sweeet!

    Quote Originally Posted by smooth operator View Post
    BC are the absolute kings of marketing.
    They even have you talking about millimeters of ski,


    and now me too

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    My orvis freebirds vary more than .1cm between the two, definitely just techy marketing

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    Some other brands were notorious for being 2-3cm shorter than the label. I think they are stressing their accuracy in their advertised stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    I think they are stressing their accuracy in their advertised stats.
    They are no more accurate (consistent) in their finishing than comparable skis from the Atomic or Elan factories. They are still cut apart by some guy with a bandsaw and finished with a variety of automated finishing machines, but trying to get to 1mm accuracy is not one of the goals.

    Why the fixation on bird stuff?
    Why the weird sayings on the sidewalls and topsheets?
    Who cares if the skis rip?

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    Skis are good; whatevs on the numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    Why the weird sayings on the sidewalls and topsheets??
    a rep told us its the in joke everyone makes while they are working on the ski
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    a rep told us its the in joke everyone makes while they are working on the ski
    A pair of Corvus arrived today:
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    Buy the ticket...take the ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telemon10 View Post
    Pet peeve of the day. Black Crows list their skis to the 1/10th of a cm. For example, Camox are available in 174.6, 181.2, and 186.1. Is this just marketing mumbo jumbo or are their skis accurate to 0.1 cm? I'm willing to bet if you measured a decent sample there would be some variance greater than 0.1cm. Also, does it really matter if a ski is 181.2cm or 181cm? I don't think so.
    yep, they should just measure them in millimetres after all that's what a tenth of a centimetre is
    or how about 1.841 metres?
    of course to sell to the USA they should measure in feet/inches just to get the rest of the worlds panties in a bunch
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyBill View Post
    A pair of Corvus arrived today:
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    when these first came in the shop two years ago I had a Quebecois customer get all up in arms with this sidewall.
    Lost her shit, "I can't believe they said that"
    me "it's a french company, they should know"
    angry Quebecois (probably don't have to add the angry to that but i digress "oh, it's okay then"
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

    fire

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    If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.

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    Do you also complain that people give their width of the ski in mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyBill View Post
    A pair of Corvus arrived today:
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    You sir just landed a bomb ass ski.

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    Yeah and them black crow folks are like real french people eh, not them faux french from back east

    BC had a rockered model ( forget which ) that said " this is not a Banana "


    a buddy running an AirBnB is finding the 3 Belgians she has rented to this summer really nasty, they are complaining about everything even that canada is too big so they must drive long distances of 3hrs or more
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    Concur with the branding thing. Seems stoopid to me, but probably smart from a business perspective. I work with a guy who doesn't know shit about skis but can't stop yabbering about how great Black Crows are. The market seems to be flooded with them at discount prices, and seem to be a good option for many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    metric is working in whole numbers (mm)...the decimal is somewhat irrelevant
    ...until you move into tenths of millimeters, as presented for some ski widths in e.g. blister reviews, then the decimal makes sense again!

    Besides that, the Crows' length numbers, exactly as printed on their skis, probably only exists in their cad files.

    But in all fairness, and as a mark of consistency when it comes to Crows' numbers printed on the skis, their waist widths have always also been given in centimeters, and also with one decimal, as opposed to other manufacturers who prints lengths in cm and widths in mm...

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    I find it strange that ski companies that manufacture in the USA don't list their dimensions in feet and inches...the fucking traitor metric socialist communists!
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Never trust the French.
    Gravity. It's the law.

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    Funny that a republic still persists in using a derivative of IMPERIAL measurements and not the measurement system devised by another republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickinbc View Post
    Funny that a republic still persists in using a derivative of IMPERIAL measurements and not the measurement system devised by another republic
    but, but, but, ... Socialism!
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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