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09-11-2019, 09:54 AM #1
What's up with Black Crows ski lengths to 0.1cm
Pet peeve of the day. Black Crows list their skis to the 1/10th of a cm. For example, Camox are available in 174.6, 181.2, and 186.1. Is this just marketing mumbo jumbo or are their skis accurate to 0.1 cm? I'm willing to bet if you measured a decent sample there would be some variance greater than 0.1cm. Also, does it really matter if a ski is 181.2cm or 181cm? I don't think so.
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09-11-2019, 10:03 AM #2
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09-11-2019, 10:47 AM #3
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09-11-2019, 10:50 AM #4
the nice thing about metric is working in whole numbers (mm)...the decimal is somewhat irrelevant
but, yeah, graphic design & marketing
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09-11-2019, 11:00 AM #5
False / Spurious Precision
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_precision
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09-11-2019, 01:22 PM #6
BC are the absolute kings of marketing.
They even have you talking about millimeters of ski,
and now me too
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09-11-2019, 01:41 PM #7
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09-11-2019, 09:26 PM #8Registered User
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My orvis freebirds vary more than .1cm between the two, definitely just techy marketing
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09-11-2019, 11:44 PM #9
Some other brands were notorious for being 2-3cm shorter than the label. I think they are stressing their accuracy in their advertised stats.
Originally Posted by blurred
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09-11-2019, 11:50 PM #10
They are no more accurate (consistent) in their finishing than comparable skis from the Atomic or Elan factories. They are still cut apart by some guy with a bandsaw and finished with a variety of automated finishing machines, but trying to get to 1mm accuracy is not one of the goals.
Why the fixation on bird stuff?
Why the weird sayings on the sidewalls and topsheets?
Who cares if the skis rip?
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09-12-2019, 09:13 AM #11
Skis are good; whatevs on the numbers
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09-12-2019, 10:05 AM #12Registered User
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09-12-2019, 04:58 PM #13
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09-13-2019, 12:49 PM #14indentured servant
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what's orange and looks good on hippies?
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rails are for trains
If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.
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09-13-2019, 12:53 PM #15indentured servant
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when these first came in the shop two years ago I had a Quebecois customer get all up in arms with this sidewall.
Lost her shit, "I can't believe they said that"
me "it's a french company, they should know"
angry Quebecois (probably don't have to add the angry to that but i digress "oh, it's okay then"what's orange and looks good on hippies?
fire
rails are for trains
If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.
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09-13-2019, 12:57 PM #16Registered User
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Do you also complain that people give their width of the ski in mm?
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09-13-2019, 01:27 PM #17
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09-13-2019, 01:38 PM #18Registered User
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Yeah and them black crow folks are like real french people eh, not them faux french from back east
BC had a rockered model ( forget which ) that said " this is not a Banana "
a buddy running an AirBnB is finding the 3 Belgians she has rented to this summer really nasty, they are complaining about everything even that canada is too big so they must drive long distances of 3hrs or moreLast edited by XXX-er; 09-13-2019 at 03:35 PM.
Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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09-13-2019, 01:45 PM #19
Concur with the branding thing. Seems stoopid to me, but probably smart from a business perspective. I work with a guy who doesn't know shit about skis but can't stop yabbering about how great Black Crows are. The market seems to be flooded with them at discount prices, and seem to be a good option for many.
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09-13-2019, 03:33 PM #20
...until you move into tenths of millimeters, as presented for some ski widths in e.g. blister reviews, then the decimal makes sense again!
Besides that, the Crows' length numbers, exactly as printed on their skis, probably only exists in their cad files.
But in all fairness, and as a mark of consistency when it comes to Crows' numbers printed on the skis, their waist widths have always also been given in centimeters, and also with one decimal, as opposed to other manufacturers who prints lengths in cm and widths in mm...
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09-13-2019, 11:39 PM #21
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09-17-2019, 01:32 PM #22
Never trust the French.
Gravity. It's the law.
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09-17-2019, 05:58 PM #23Meadowskipping old fart
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Funny that a republic still persists in using a derivative of IMPERIAL measurements and not the measurement system devised by another republic
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09-17-2019, 06:04 PM #24
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