Electric car thread

[Boissal]

Ioniq 5 / EV6 owners—what real-world miles per kwhr are you averaging? With exterior crap like ski box or bikes on there? I recall an AWD comparison of these 2 where the EV6 had 10% more range thanks to better aerodynamics than the Ioniq.

2023 Ioniq5 SEL (AWD version) with a OneUp bike rack. I've put 1800 miles on it, all in the summer, and am averaging 3.9 miles/kWh so far. That includes a 40 miles daily commute, 35 of which are on the freeway driving 75 mph. The rest of my driving is mostly going up and down the Cottonwoods with the bike, or up to the Uintas with 2 passengers.
Canyon/Uintas drives are painful on the up, the car does not love gaining 3k to 5k of elevation on a steep road and it averages < 2 miles/kWh, sometimes as low as 1.5. On the way back I max out at 999 miles/kWh. Driving down LCC or BCC I recoup 3 to 5% of battery charge, I love it. Never touch the brakes of the accelerator, all regen.

[XXX-er]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/canada-...teel-1.7014162

No surprise here on the cheap EV's from China

[uglymoney]

We drove several, Audi Etron Q4, Nissan ariya, Kia ev6, could't find a Toyota buzzforks (bz4x) to drive, but they look like a streamlined Pontiac Aztec anyway, so yeah, fuck that thing.
Everyone in the family preferred the interior of the Nissan over the Kia ev6.
Some stupid things on the kia were a turn off, like the ugly throwing star wheels, and the fingerprint covered doors, since you have to press the handle in to have it "present itself" for pulling the door open, unless you go to the gt line trim.
We didn't find as good of deals as we hoped , but maybe I suck at negotiating. With the gt line level, the ev6 was a bit of a better deal than the Ariya, but because my wife who will be doing 95% of the driving likes the Ariya, we got an Ariya. We got the evolve+ AWD trim. It's pretty damn nice. I agree the inside is a significantly more upscale feeling than the ev6, really nice sunroof (I like sunroofs) and the range is outstanding. Drove it up to a lake in the uintas near trial lake and back to SLC and had more than 50% left. The land cruiser will get a lot less miles on it this year.
First time in my life I've leased a car, and first time I've ever had a brand new car in the quiver. Exterior wise, not as striking as the ev6, but whatever, what's another jelly bean on the road.
At least I talked her into the stone grey rather than black so it doesn't look dirty all the time.

Holy batman delayed answer.

Congrats. I've been really slack researching the newest electrics. The Nissan looks like a very nice option.

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[Touring_Sedan]

A buddy of mine sent me this. 2024 Solterra, 3K miles. MSRP ~$44,995, listed for $26,035. How much does that depreciation suck?!!!!!

https://www.autotempest.com/details/dt-252852583

[frorider]

2023 Ioniq5 SEL (AWD version) with a OneUp bike rack. I've put 1800 miles on it, all in the summer, and am averaging 3.9 miles/kWh so far. That includes a 40 miles daily commute, 35 of which are on the freeway driving 75 mph. The rest of my driving is mostly going up and down the Cottonwoods with the bike, or up to the Uintas with 2 passengers.
Canyon/Uintas drives are painful on the up, the car does not love gaining 3k to 5k of elevation on a steep road and it averages < 2 miles/kWh, sometimes as low as 1.5. On the way back I max out at 999 miles/kWh. Driving down LCC or BCC I recoup 3 to 5% of battery charge, I love it. Never touch the brakes of the accelerator, all regen.

Thx, very helpful info. 4 m/kwhr is impressive. As an engineer I’m intrigued by the technologies used by Lucid to get to 5 … but not enough to spend that cash.

[Boissal]

Thx, very helpful info. 4 m/kwhr is impressive. As an engineer I’m intrigued by the technologies used by Lucid to get to 5 … but not enough to spend that cash.

In actual traffic I usually average 5 to 6 miles/kWh, the regen really boosts efficiency. The massive weight also makes it coast really well. I should caveat this by saying that I drive it like a grandma and almost never get out of ECO mode so most of the mileage is in 2WD. I use the standard mode if I need to pass someone going up the canyon and every time I scare myself when I realize I went from 35 to 75 mph in a couple of seconds. I've never tried sports mode, too scared of getting whiplash honestly. The amount of power is ridiculous, especially coming from a gutless subi. The first time I drove down Parley's canyon I I found myself going over 100 mph. Between the super plush handling and the lack of engine noise it's impossible to gauge your speed.

My current favorite thing about the car is the 2 years of free charging on the Electrify America network. I didn't think I'd get it as the car wasn't new. Technically a dealer's demo has never been sold which makes me the first owner so I qualified for the offer. I typically charge at home with an L2 charger but there's a bank of L3 chargers right off the freeway a couple minutes away from my in laws. I stop there whenever I go retrieve the kid . The advertised charging rates are accurate for the Ioniq 5, I've never spent more than 15 minutes there charging from as low as 20% to 80%. Definitely slower than filling up a tank of gas, just enough to look at a dozen threads on TGR.

[jackattack]

We're starting to look for a townie for my wife. Daycare drop-off, store trips and her commute is only 1 mile (she has an e-bike but winter is coming.)

2019 Leaf SV are starting to pop up for $10-15k can we do better? 100mi range would be good. Needs to have room for a rear-facing car seat and a 35# dog.

[Touring_Sedan]

We're starting to look for a townie for my wife. Daycare drop-off, store trips and her commute is only 1 mile (she has an e-bike but winter is coming.)

2019 Leaf SV are starting to pop up for $10-15k can we do better? 100mi range would be good. Needs to have room for a rear-facing car seat and a 35# dog.

I see Chevy Bolts around the same price around here. I'd rather that than the Leaf. Better range.... not a Nissan.

[The AD]

I see Chevy Bolts around the same price around here. I'd rather that than the Leaf. Better range.... not a Nissan.

Yes, but in exchange you get a Chevy. Seems like six of one, half a dozen of the other to me,

[jackattack]

The bolt cargo capacity is much smaller than the leaf. Can you fit a car seat, dog and a load of groceries in the bolt?

[Touring_Sedan]

The bolt cargo capacity is much smaller than the leaf. Can you fit a car seat, dog and a load of groceries in the bolt?

Looks reasonable.

Probably not as big as a Leaf, but I could make it work.

[MontuckyFried]

A buddy of mine sent me this. 2024 Solterra, 3K miles. MSRP ~$44,995, listed for $26,035. How much does that depreciation suck?!!!!!

Hmm... At MSRP, it's a hard pass, BUT at $26K, the math definitely seems to be favorable! Not bad!

[carlh]

Chevy is faster, drives better and more range. Leaf has much better seats. If it’s a third car and you can live with 70miles of range the older ones are even cheaper. What out for dealers advertising with the 4k tax credit included in the price, it has an income cutoff.

I see Chevy Bolts around the same price around here. I'd rather that than the Leaf. Better range.... not a Nissan.

[Beaver]

2023 Ioniq5 SEL (AWD version) with a OneUp bike rack. I've put 1800 miles on it, all in the summer, and am averaging 3.9 miles/kWh so far. That includes a 40 miles daily commute, 35 of which are on the freeway driving 75 mph. The rest of my driving is mostly going up and down the Cottonwoods with the bike, or up to the Uintas with 2 passengers.
Canyon/Uintas drives are painful on the up, the car does not love gaining 3k to 5k of elevation on a steep road and it averages < 2 miles/kWh, sometimes as low as 1.5. On the way back I max out at 999 miles/kWh. Driving down LCC or BCC I recoup 3 to 5% of battery charge, I love it. Never touch the brakes of the accelerator, all regen.

I've got a 22 2wd long range with 70,000 km. I often go up and over a 1150m pass (3550'). It rally doesn't take much extra to go over the pass because the downhill pays back most of the climb. I used to get about 21kwh/100km (2.95m/kwh) but after a couple years driving I've lost the need to smash the go pedal always. I typically get 18.5kwh/100km now but if I work it I can get 16 (3.88). My wife gets 15 easily (4.14).

It makes a 300ish km trip pretty much twice per week with a home charger at each end. It cost about $5cad (compared to $40 in a matrix), one of my favorite things about it.

[adrenalated]

The bolt cargo capacity is much smaller than the leaf. Can you fit a car seat, dog and a load of groceries in the bolt?

I owned a Bolt. The answer to this depends heavily on what "a load" of groceries is to you.
Dog and car seat and several big bags of groceries, no problem. Multiple overflowing carts like I see some people pushing out of the store, no.

I also test drove a 2nd gen Leaf before buying the Bolt and felt they were fairly equivalent with some things nicer on the Bolt and other things nicer on the Leaf. I bought the Bolt because the Chevy dealer made me a better deal. As far as your space concerns, I seem to recall that overall useable space was about the same with the Bolt having more backseat space and the Leaf having a larger cargo area. 1st gen Leafs I think were smaller. And ugly.

[NBABUCKS1]

late post here. 2023 ioniq 5 awd. 40k miles

lifetime 3.2 mi/kwh

highway 3.0-3.2 mi/kwh

no boxes or anything.

[Ørion]

Nissan's insistence on the outdated CHAdeMO plug for the Leaf can be mitigated with adapters at least.

What crossed it off my list though is that the Leaf still uses an air-cooled battery, which has shown to have an outsized effect on battery degradation over the lifespan of the vehicle.

The Bolt uses liquid cooling for the battery and, while it is unfortunately a Chevrolet, at least that's mitigated in part by how naturally low maintenance BEVs are.

[The AD]

late post here. 2023 ioniq 5 awd. 40k miles

That's a lot of driving.

[Beaver]

No need to take my bike apart. Just huck it in my HI5. Shopping for another E car, kinda bending towards another HI5 for the fast charging, big cargo space and general awesomeness of my first one.

[Beaver]

No need to take my bike apart. Just huck it in my HI5. Shopping for another E car, kinda bending towards another HI5 for the fast charging, big cargo space and general awesomeness of my first one.

[NBABUCKS1]

beaver - I thought I had the most trashed ioniq 5. Thanks for making me feel not as bad for destroying the interior of a new car . Tools not jewels, amiright

skis have destroyed both the back door handles, random building supplies have put gouges in the front passanger door, etc.

[WMD]

We've gotten 3.5 mi/kwh over nearly 26,000 miles in our Kia EV6. Lots of snow and cold weather driving, plus driving over high passes.

[MontuckyFried]

Question for RENTING an EV. Flying into Denver in a couple weeks and ends up that renting an EV from Budget is actually the cheapest option. Would actually be rad not to have to gas up and get to try one out as well. However, anybody know how much of a pain it is to bring it back with the 70%+ charge that they require? We all know how much of a pain it is to fuel up a car right before a flight on a tight schedule. Wish I knew WTF cars they rent out because range would make all the difference. FWIW, I'm going to DIA to Golden and back the next day.

Any of you have intel on going this route? I'm not worried about range getting around, but AM concerned about getting it charged back up at the last second. Golden's only 30ish miles away so if it's a Tesla, no problem. Can easily make it back with 70% (I think), but if it's a Leaf then I'm screwed. Haha.

[skaredshtles]

Question for RENTING an EV. Flying into Denver in a couple weeks and ends up that renting an EV from Budget is actually the cheapest option. Would actually be rad not to have to gas up and get to try one out as well. However, anybody know how much of a pain it is to bring it back with the 70%+ charge that they require? We all know how much of a pain it is to fuel up a car right before a flight on a tight schedule. Wish I knew WTF cars they rent out because range would make all the difference. FWIW, I'm going to DIA to Golden and back the next day.

Any of you have intel on going this route? I'm not worried about range getting around, but AM concerned about getting it charged back up at the last second. Golden's only 30ish miles away so if it's a Tesla, no problem. Can easily make it back with 70% (I think), but if it's a Leaf then I'm screwed. Haha.

Have you considered taking public transit? If you're going for work the light rail goes from the airport out to Golden. To get the "last mile" there's the "Ore Cart" shuttle service from the light rail downtown.

[adrenalated]

Have you considered taking public transit?

What, like a derelict?