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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    … are they selling anyway so straight up gouging?
    I bet it’s nothing more complicated than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    I'm having trouble understanding why. Is it that the dealer doesn't want to sell/maintain them because they're heavily invested in ICE cars, or Brandon bullshit, or are they selling anyway so straight up gouging? WA is a blue state, and my town is bluer than most, but the next county is purple for sure. I can't imagine they sell many electric cars.

    I did see one drive by a few minutes ago (while sitting on a brewery patio). Pretty good looking car. No pic of the Ionic, but here are two of our drinking companions

    hyundai didn’t start out selling the ioniq 5 in all 50 states and still doesn’t, they prioritized states with $$$ incentives. Like one real close to Iowa Illinois. Illinois offers a $4k rebate on ev purchase, so, kinda gouging the government?

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    The dealer I just spoke of was in fact in Illinois.

    Awesome dog shot Ted. They look like good beer drinking companions.

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    It was kinda funny because I saw the Ionic, fumbled around for my phone, missed the opportunity, and the people at my table - all of the fairer gender - were "why are you trying to take a picture of that weird car?" Me: nvrmnd... I'll get a pic of these beer buddies instead.

    The herding dog (not mine) is a sweetheart. Ol' Ghostface however, can be a handful. The third dog (not pictured) just chills. Until a skateboard or onewheel goes by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong View Post
    I bet it’s nothing more complicated than that.
    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    hyundai didn’t start out selling the ioniq 5 in all 50 states and still doesn’t, they prioritized states with $$$ incentives. Like one real close to Iowa Illinois. Illinois offers a $4k rebate on ev purchase, so, kinda gouging the government?
    Makes sense. Since the tax breaks/incentives from this state don't exist anymore for Tesla or BMW, and Hyundai I5 only gets one at the lowest trim levels ($45k price cap), the shenanigans might be coming to an end.

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    Know of a pair of Fischer Ranger 107Ti 189s (new or used) for sale? PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
    it’s a rivian thing, you wouldn’t understand

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    They should title that segment: “Inconvenient Truths”

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    Does everyone who owns an EV have 240v already installed, or is anyone using a normal outlet?
    After my first 5 or 6 hours of ownership and 300km i plugged it in to 120v. 120v is laughable, my car said 67 hours til full from 9%. I quickly installed a 240v outlet and bought a 40A (50A2P breaker) ( 9.6kW) charger. Until I upgrade the feed to my garage I have it on a 20A2P breaker.

    And, Yes, you have 240 in your house.

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    I thought the Infiniti Beluga SUV was the ugliest vehicle extant, but this Ariel EV (with turbine range extender) is a contender.
    Know of a pair of Fischer Ranger 107Ti 189s (new or used) for sale? PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
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    I thought the Infiniti Beluga SUV was the ugliest vehicle extant, but this Ariel EV (with turbine range extender) is a contender.
    Ariel is to aero as the Hopeless Diamond is to stealth? Looks equally likely to be the simplified form that would mesh in OpenFOAM or the one they imagined would work but never got any feedback.

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    ^ I think that is mid-transforming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
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    I thought the Infiniti Beluga SUV was the ugliest vehicle extant, but this Ariel EV (with turbine range extender) is a contender.
    the rear is, uh, interesting. Looks really small. Kinda reminds one of the end of the Japan boom Kei cars that just loaded on weird style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul View Post
    ^ I think that is mid-transforming?
    That's a better idea. I was assuming a bit from Ariel's previous odd little half-developed track cars and the big thick surfaces. But the "no step" region right under the door is more logical if the mouth is just starting to open and the legs are about to kick out to the side--in a few seconds that'll disappear. Yeah, that makes more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaver View Post
    And, Yes, you have 240 in your house.
    Now you are just pulling a leg.





    I’ll see myself out.

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    A couple down the street from my parents have his and hers Hummer EV's. Something that weighs 9000lbs should not be able to launch like that on tires like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider View Post
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    I thought the Infiniti Beluga SUV was the ugliest vehicle extant, but this Ariel EV (with turbine range extender) is a contender.
    Aren’t EV supposed to be aerodynamic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    Aren’t EV supposed to be aerodynamic?
    Looks like a lot of air intakes for a car that doesn't really need air.

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    Plenty of cooling needs for EVs, there’s three seperate radiators at the front https://equipmake.co.uk/products/hipercar/
    Last edited by dunfree ; 09-06-2022 at 08:53 AM.

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    The Icon guy said management of different cooling systems was the biggest challenge on their '49 Merc EV conversion. Batteries, controllers. Lots of heat.

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    The 50s called, they want their automobile body fins back.

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    Scientists have finally figured out how to charge an EV in less than 10 minutes

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news...741fd3b3a3e8d9

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    Sounds like it would also be conditioning battery packs to work better (or something like that) so would it also extend the life of the pack? If so it could make some of the current crop of e-cars worth more, or at least have more value, when they go to the used market.

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    No it would make the current generation not as valuable since the new tech requires different battery set up and charging stations.
    Maybe out 10 to 20 years still.
    https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/960985

    The researchers plan to use their model to develop even better methods and to help design new lithium-ion batteries that are optimized to undergo fast charging. Dufek says that the ultimate goal is for electric vehicles to be able to “tell” charging stations how to power up their specific batteries quickly and safely.
    The researchers acknowledge support and funding from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Vehicle Technologies Office.

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