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09-09-2019, 08:56 AM #1
Family Backcountry Tent Recommendations
Lots of threads on car camping tents, but I'm looking for recommendations on a good backpacking/boating tent for a family of four. Current setup is a BD Mega Light with the bug insert. Big advantage is weight and packability relative to size. But as the kids get bigger it's getting a little cramped (especially with the center pole), and I'm sick of dealing with sand blowing in on us during desert trips. Also gets a little drafty and flappy at times in high winds, which are fairy frequent where we camp. So, here's what I think I want:
- Comfortably sleep four people (i.e., four 20" wide sleeping pads plus a little extra space for clothes/gear).
- Solid walls to keep sand out, so either no mesh or very minimal mesh. What happened to all the "convertible" tents of the early 2000s??
- Good design for wind.
- Reasonable weight for backpacking. I don't mind something that most would consider heavy, as mileage will be fairly short. But I'll still need to carry the thing, so no Springbars or the like.
Looking around it seems like this leads to four-season tents like the MHW Trango. Hillebergs also look nice (Nallo 4 looks like a good fit) but of course are $$ and never able to be discounted. What else is out there? I feel like there have to be more options, but I'm coming up short.
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09-09-2019, 10:33 AM #2
For true backpacking, and not car camping as mentioned.. I'd go 2 tents for a family of 4 until kids are mature enough to haul/use their own tents or hammocks. Lots of situations where a couple smaller tents are sooo much better than one large one..
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-09-2019, 11:37 AM #3
For 4 people + gear you need a 6 person tent to be comfortable. Not sure if there is even an option for a true backpacking setup that size. May have to look into a lightweight car camping tent. Someone packs the rain fly, someone else packs the tent, split the poles.
Like SJG said 2, 2 person tents with large vestibules may be best.
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09-09-2019, 11:52 AM #4
We used to run a Kelty 4 person tent. It looks the like Salida 4 could do the job. Certainly not ultra light but 7lbs for 4 people with 99 x 80 x 56 dims isn’t terrible.
https://www.mountainsports.com/item/...iABEgKmhvD_BwE
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09-09-2019, 11:53 AM #5
I've thought about going with two small tents in the past, as we occasionally run into site-selection issues with the mid. My wife has been less interested in that idea, but something like a pair of BD Hilights could make sense for specific locales while ticking most of the boxes. I may need to revisit that concept.
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09-09-2019, 11:54 AM #6
I have no recs, but want the same thing - backpacking tent for 4 people. I already have a tent for 2, but my 3-person Sierra Designs tent from 1995 aint cutting it for the family of 4 anymore.
Ain't no way I'm carrying two tents! So, 4 person it is.
Backpacker's contribution: https://www.backpacker.com/gear/the-...or-backpackerssproing!
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09-09-2019, 11:55 AM #7
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09-09-2019, 12:15 PM #8
We use a 2-person tent (BD Lighthouse) and 3-person tent (REI Taj 3, my favorite tent of all time) for our family of four and dog. That said, this system is a cobbling together of existing tents. If I had no backpacking tents and were starting afresh, I'd probably consider a big tent.
My advice would be to see if you can find a 5 or 6 person tent. Or, at least, the roomiest 4-person available. My experience has always been that the number of people that can comfortably fit into a tent is X - 1, with X equaling the number of people advertised by the manufacturer. A 4-person tent will be okay when the kids are under 9, but once they grow up, it's going to be sardine-level tight.
Incidentally, my beloved Taj 3 has a broken tent pole and is likely to be soon replaced by a Marmot Tungsten UL 3P. I'm once again confronting the "do I really need a footprint" issue I come across every time I get a new tent. (I always get the footprint, but feel a little like I'm being taking advantage of.)
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09-09-2019, 12:22 PM #9Rod9301
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There's a tarptent for 4 people, weighs under 5 lbs
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09-09-2019, 12:30 PM #10
Can't recall the models off the top of my head and am at work so don't have time to do the research, but IIRC some brands have 2p or 3p tent models that can connect to each other at the vestibule points. Basically gives you a "single" large tent, with more versatility (and a slight weight penalty).
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09-09-2019, 12:33 PM #11
I get the suggestions for a bigger 5-6 person tent, but I don't see much in that realm that would be suitable to throw in a backpack. MSR Stormking??
And AKBruin, I hear you on footprints, they are like the car dealer tru-coat for tents. I often use one car camping, but skip it for backpacking.
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09-09-2019, 12:53 PM #12Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-09-2019, 01:14 PM #13
I thought the dads sleep outside (somebody needs a good night of sleep).
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09-09-2019, 01:30 PM #14
We used to backpack with our 4-person REI "backpacking" tent, and while it's light it sucks in every other way. Lots of mesh, walls that droop in on the people on the edges, very minimal room. This summer since the kids are older/bigger/able to carry some weight, we just brought our car camping/river tent, the Marmot Limelight 4 person. Not too meshy, in fact with the fly on it's pretty bombproof (could even be hot if you're in a hot climate). Anyway, I carried the tent, my wife carried the fly and stakes, and my oldest daughter (15) carried the poles. It was easy and it was very nice to have the extra room in camp. They don't market it as a backpacking tent per se (weight is listed as 8.8), but I thought it was a great compromise. (BTW I do not bother with a footprint, never found it necessary and leaving it behind saves weight.)
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09-09-2019, 01:56 PM #15
This summer I bought the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV 4 to fit this slot.
Legit 4-person space at 86" width. 5lb 10oz packed.
Lots of mesh, though... but any "backpacking" tent will be mostly mesh nowadays. Otherwise it's an Alpine or Expedition tent and will weigh a shitload.
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09-09-2019, 02:01 PM #16Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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09-09-2019, 02:50 PM #17
See, this is what annoys me. Where are the "3-season plus" tents? Something like the new Mountain Hardwear Outpost in a larger size would be the sweet spot IMO: https://www.mountainhardwear.com/out...t-1830051.html
Or maybe I just need to get over my late 90s tent nostalgia and pick one of the above models with the highest %age of solid walls.
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09-09-2019, 02:55 PM #18
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09-09-2019, 03:01 PM #19
Also, I'm coming around to bodywhomper's approach here.
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09-09-2019, 03:06 PM #20
I would also strongly suggest a couple tents. I'd go with a lightweight 2-person for the kids and a lightweight 3-person for the grownups... unless you can find a reasonably-sized lightweight 2-person for the adults.
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09-09-2019, 05:12 PM #21
Hmm. In the event someone is hurt, I don't understand how carrying two tents (weighing, for example, 4 pounds each) is better than carrying one tent (weighing, for example, 6 pounds)...
Of course, there are other reasons for having multiple tents -- where's the eggplant emoji TGR?!?sproing!
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09-09-2019, 05:51 PM #22
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09-09-2019, 07:31 PM #23
I too miss the old convertible tents. Sierra Designs 2nd iteration of the nightwatch CD was perfection in my mind. Small vestibule though. I wintered many storms in it including heavy snow. It still survives today as a field work tent and it was from the mid/late 90s. Bomber, but also 7 lbs for a 2 person tent.
Regarding 4 person tents, have you checked out the MSR Papa Hubba? On sale at MSR: https://www.msrgear.com/papa-hubba-n...SABEgImlvD_BwE
It's very light for the space and partial side panels at least. This is not a tent you can beat the tar out of like my Marmot Halo, but it's very light for the space. Kelty used to make very good tents for the money if you want something cheaper but I am not familiar with their newer designs. They were typically a little heavy. Regarding space, I shared a small 2 person tent for years and usually hung my pack in a tree or just leaned it up and covered it with a heavy duty garbage bag. Easy/cheap/light way to free up tent space.
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09-09-2019, 07:32 PM #24
This should be a strong contender. They have different swappable inserts options (full mesh, half mesh, full solid.) No experience with this model but all their other tents are great.
https://www.tarptent.com/product/hogback/
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09-09-2019, 07:35 PM #25
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