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  1. #526
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    i've "dated" an engineering, and also have some close friends who are of that such brain.

    that pretty much explains it. ahh, as one would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Chupacabra View Post
    So you think Ted Bundy was involved too? Interesting... perhaps he was behind the grassy knoll with Ted Cruz' father.
    oh fully. i believe it.

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    The only thing people should be bitching about at this point is why they haven't given any more updates.

    Investigation or not, those shit-fucks have just left us looking for more info. A picture? A press release? An eyewitness account? No, nothing.

    Ultimate cock tease, I say!


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    Quote Originally Posted by byates1 View Post
    now i'm really afraid. thank you so much for all this updated information. i will be following this and posting to all my social media accounts your fascinating work.

    please pm me your direct information so i can continue to help in these matters

    thank you so much for this insightful insight, very incredible work on you team's part.

    again thank you and blessed to see this updated information.

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    As per Steamboat Springs new rope re-replacement due to vibrations, I find it very interesting that a rope can actually create cracks and breaks in installation structures due to the vibrations caused by the rope surface travelling over the sheaves.

    (And maybe, purely speculating, that also had something to do with the replacement of bolts on the tower in Vail recently. Or maybe it was something else ... but it might be related, or not.)

    A while back I posted that in BC a tower had developed a crack in the cross-beam, and I wondered how that could possibly happen. Perhaps it happens due to these types of undesirable vibrations while operating under load.


    Back to Steamboat Springs ...

    The variation in the lay of the 2007 rope didn’t allow the pairs of sheaves, or wheels, at each gondola tower to absorb the energy that can cause vibration. ... “The lay of the (2007) rope was such that it pushed the sheaves down simultaneously,” Allen said. “All that energy was going right into the axle.”

    Well, according to rope manufacturer Radaelli, the actual amount of vibration is significant, and with using 7 strands instead of 6, the amount of undesirable vibrations can be cut in half.

    The Radaelli PDF here describes this quite well and has stuff about sheaves ('Hauling Rope Interfaces") and a lot of otherwise good rope porn.
    http://www.oitaf.org/ref/Grenoble%20...%20Clerici.pdf


    So, I guess, the problem with the Steamboat rope had to do with these forces and a different rope lay and/or strands was specified to solve that.

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    A few other nuggets in that document:

    All the ropes for hauling-carrying operation must have a fiber core in order to allow splices. Therefore the ropes must be produced with a single layer of strands over a core. The number of strands must be not less than 6 to allow the splice (with a lower number of strands, the core diameter would be smaller than those of the outer strand).
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    I'd never thought of that! It would be impossible to pass and bury the splice if there were 5 strands because the strand passed inside won't actually fit in the space provided. And since the splice would break the cores continuity, the 6 strand rope must not have a steel core. It must be just a 'core' and not part of the hauling tension.


    Anyways, I hope that the PDF from Radaelli on that page is as interesting to you as it was to me.

    Cheers!

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    i feel like: you are pissing into the wind.

    break me some down some pantera.

    when you have time, of course.

    edit: PLEASE LET US WHO YOU don't work for.
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    Been away from technology for a few days and with baited breath hoping for an update........

    Entertaining summer thread


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    yo, lettuce know how you see thus.

    cool, thx, grate, by.

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    Interesting twitter threads between individuals and media with @oplopanix.cs (SAR member in Squamish that also maintains a blog about stuff from being a SAR volunteer, team leader, manager, and mountain rescue expert.)

    https://twitter.com/KeiliBartlett/st...28419574964225

    https://twitter.com/lithohedron/stat...28894194032640
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    any idiot; who has not watched the fall of tumblr,

    is like paying attention to twitter,

    yo, blade me into town yo,


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    https://www.squamishchief.com/news/l...cut-1.23925197

    RCMP have confirmed that the cable to the Sea to Sky Gondola has been cut.

    “The investigation to date has confirmed the preliminary assessment” reads a release from Squamish RCMP.

    “Police have confirmed that the main cable was cut and that there are no other natural or mechanical reasons for the cable to have failed.”

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    ohhh shit son!

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    Outrageous! It doesn’t sound like they even considered the possibility that laser sharks were involved.

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    I’ll believe it if PureGravity clears the report.

    Dude’s a freak of nature with the research. CNN should hire him as a taking head for the next CableGate.


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    they didn't rule out lasers as the cutting device.......

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    a night vision photo from the scene just came across my desk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    I’ll believe it if PureGravity clears the report.

    Dude’s a freak of nature with the research. CNN should hire him as a taking head for the next CableGate.


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    I'll take the compliment.

    I guess that puts an end to my various and numerous unsupported and purely speculative theories.
    Back to my regular work as a bio-robotics shark recombinant DNA breeding specialist in Beijing.
    Thanks for all your patience - as my two mother tongues are Chinese and Russian and I only learned
    English recently while on sabbatical from my international treaty research endeavours.
    And if anyone wonders, WIND is very misunderstood
    especially the role it plays in the distribution of specialize viruses
    designed to carry DNA
    payloads to gondola
    guests overseas
    unaware
    ...



    I fully respeckt preliminary reports
    especially those stating "that there are no other natural or mechanical reasons for the cable to have failed.”


    他妈的你
    长寿
    并安全地骑行

    edited: 'puts and end' to 'puts an end'
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    Bastard took it home with him..

    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    If there is ever someone on here who needs to be doxxed, it's PG.
    Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.

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    RCMP UPDATE: Confirmed cut at Sea to Sky Gondola

    The investigation into the Sea to Sky Gondola is active and ongoing.

    The investigation to date has confirmed the preliminary assessment. Police have confirmed that the main cable was cut and that there are no other natural or mechanical reasons for the cable to have failed.

    Anyone with information regarding this crime is asked to call our dedicated tip line: 604-892-6122. Alternatively, anonymous tips can be provided through Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

    To preserve the integrity of the investigation, no further details will be released.
    weeeeeeell I don't know how relevant the "NO OTHER NATURAL OR MECHANICAL REASONS FOR THE CABLE TO HAVE FAILED" part is.

    Either the rope was fucking CUT
    or it FAILED due to being cut by some mechanism in the lift system or by other means such as defect or fatigue etc..

    If it was CUT, it was CUT.
    So was it CUT?

    Have independent, uninterested, non supply-chain related, forensics persons determined that it was CUT?
    Then for GOD SAKE, just say what the forensics people said.

    And then show some pictures.
    Who doesn't like pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    他妈的你
    长寿
    并安全地骑行
    Hahaha! Google translate says this about that:
    Fuck you
    longevity
    And ride safely
    and
    Don’t give up until.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    RCMP UPDATE: Confirmed cut at Sea to Sky Gondola



    weeeeeeell I don't know how relevant the "NO OTHER NATURAL OR MECHANICAL REASONS FOR THE CABLE TO HAVE FAILED" part is.

    Either the rope was fucking CUT
    or it FAILED due to being cut by some mechanism in the lift system or by other means such as defect or fatigue etc..

    If it was CUT, it was CUT.
    So was it CUT?

    Have independent, uninterested, non supply-chain related, forensics persons determined that it was CUT?
    Then for GOD SAKE, just say what the forensics people said.

    And then show some pictures.
    Who doesn't like pictures?
    It wasn’t cut v


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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    RCMP UPDATE: Confirmed cut at Sea to Sky Gondola

    Have independent, uninterested, non supply-chain related, forensics persons determined that it was CUT?
    Then for GOD SAKE, just say what the forensics people said.

    And then show some pictures.
    Who doesn't like pictures?
    Did you somehow not read this when it was posted earlier?

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...alls-1.5242787

    Did you miss the part about multiple inspectors from WorkSafeBC and Technical Safety BC working on site with the RCMP, and they being THE experts who can easily determine if the cable were cut or failed due to other causes?

    Yes, the cable was cut.

    As for expecting to see pictures of the cut ends, I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for that. Those ends have been removed and are evidence. The police hardly ever make evidence like that public while an investigation is underway. There have to be things that only the police and the perp know about. Maybe you’ll get to see the evidence when the case goes to trial, if that ever happens.

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    swflboth
    watch out for snakes

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    yeah, logic ain't gonna work on this guy......

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