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Thread: Gondola cable snaps
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08-13-2019, 01:49 PM #226Registered User
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08-13-2019, 02:06 PM #227
RCMP said it was vandalism but I'm convinced by puregravity's charts that this is a false flag operation.
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08-13-2019, 02:18 PM #228
Well, I remember the news in 2014 when it was about to open. A little story first ...
I didn't ride the Peak To Peak until then because when I was in my 30's, I became a bit of a worry-wart on lifts. Long story, but for no really particular reason lifts started to give me jitters when I was about 35 years old. Before then, I'd ride the peak chairs up in the Adirondacks till close in ANY conditions alone or with people. I remember the fun of catching the last lift up Whiteface with my Glen Plake edition K2s years ago in -25 c blowing wind. I used to dig that!
I used to be fearless but became a lot more cautious then. I honestly don't know what changed in me. Maybe getting older makes people more risk averse. My wife - she could not have a care in the world. If it wasn't for her, I probably would have never got on the Peak To Peak. Now, I ride it without any fear.
Now, my dad, he isn't risk averse about anything. Being a PhD in sciences and also a computer scientist, he is quite logical about things. Surprise to me ... when I toured them around Whistler, my mom came and rode all the summer lifts with me, even almost peed her pants on the Peak chair. LOL. But dad, he didn't ride any lifts and enjoyed the lake walks instead. He just didn't feel good about riding the lifts, he said. He's not afraid of heights. Just rather avoid them for some fear he'd rather not voice.
Now, 2014. I don't have any opinions or persuasions about the Sea to Sky project. I didn't actually think it would work out as a business idea. It seemed a marketing long shot. After all, who would want to ride up a mountain side and look at typically rainy weather and non-descript mountains??? Why not just go all the way to Whistler?
But anyways, Feb 2014 the lift had a car fall off and then later a report was issued. I read the entire report back then. It was linked in the Whistler Pique update about the project. FYI - I am always fascinated by mechanics and stuff. When I was a kid I took everything apart, including designing mechanical system. For example, variable valve timing systems for 4 stroke motors. My younger brother has some patents on newfangled overhead conveyor designs. It must be a family DNA thing to be fascinated by stuff like that.
I digress. Back to 2014.
I read the report:
BRITISH COLUMBIA SAFETY AUTHORITY INVESTIGATION REPORT
SEA TO SKY GONDOLA INCIDENT
February 4, 2014
Report No.: RPT-5095-00
https://imgur.com/a/qeK7jfH
I love diagrams and information like that. I gobble up stuff like that. Reports with actual observations and engineering facts, about real news in the media - that stuff really fascinates me!
I went on the Sea To Sky gondola for the first time in June of this year with my wife and out of town guests. We all had fun. I noticed a few things (see my initial posts in this thread about jiggly cars) but otherwise I felt comforted and safe. I was really glad that I challenged my fears and went on it.
My wife and I are now season pass holders. I anticipated using the lift for hiking, snowshoeing, maybe back country skiing, and also maybe just to sit in the cafe up top to do my work from home using the internet.
Yes - I am surprised. Not only surprised that someone might do such a thing, and that everyone thinks of the world like that, but surprised too that the media hasn't asked many critical questions.Last edited by puregravity; 08-22-2019 at 10:24 PM.
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08-13-2019, 02:49 PM #229
Right. But if your 1" rope is made from 6 cables, spiral wound, around a non-load supporting core, and you cut through 1/2 of the cables, you will have 3 cable left and 1/2 the load bearing capacity.
I guess it depends on what is meant by '2/3 the way through'. Does that mean straight across, until 0.66" of the diameter remains on one side (much less than 1/3 of the actual cables that make up the rope). Or does it mean, 1/3 of the rope steel area remains?
Cross-sectional area is pi times the radius squared (A = π r²). Unless cored. Then the area is less the area of the core.
Isn't the breaking strength of a rope linear with the cross-sectional area of actual load bearing materials?
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08-13-2019, 02:53 PM #230
He meant cutting 2/3's of the thickness, speaking in laymens' terms, none of that inside bullshit jargon that nobody understands.
So spiral would mean you'd have maybe 1/8th of your original wires left. Roughly.
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08-13-2019, 03:11 PM #231
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08-13-2019, 04:52 PM #232
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08-13-2019, 04:53 PM #233
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08-13-2019, 04:58 PM #234
We already got a thread fer that argument.......
This is the thread where we watch puregravity try to throw the cops off his trail with misdirection and obfuscation.
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08-13-2019, 05:51 PM #235
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08-13-2019, 06:01 PM #236
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08-13-2019, 06:05 PM #237
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08-13-2019, 07:35 PM #238
The RCMP are typically very reluctant to say anything about an investigation - and it would be embarrassing for them to have to walk back their "this is a crime scene" statement. And I don't think the RCMP cares about the owners of the gondola and protecting their business interests by floating a false story.
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08-13-2019, 08:25 PM #239Banned
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08-13-2019, 09:13 PM #240
^^^ Snicker.
In search of the elusive artic powder weasel ...
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08-13-2019, 09:30 PM #241
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08-13-2019, 10:00 PM #242
And each strand contracts and unravels back up the rope when cut, with enough force to break bones
And each of those six “strands” is made up of somewhere between seven and 50 individual wires. That’s a lot of wires to contract, unravel and whack the yahoo trying to cut the rope with a torch or grinder
If this was sabotage I wanna know how they did it without dying
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08-13-2019, 10:12 PM #243
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08-14-2019, 12:22 AM #244
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08-14-2019, 01:36 AM #245
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08-14-2019, 06:48 AM #246
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08-14-2019, 07:12 AM #247
Whats todays theory?
watch out for snakes
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08-14-2019, 08:06 AM #248
Yo, PureGravity wtf? You still Going on about the wind etc when the police told us it was vandalism, like 4 days ago.
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08-14-2019, 08:07 AM #249
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08-14-2019, 08:10 AM #250
alien squirrels with laser eyes and acid saliva
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