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08-09-2019, 09:15 AM #1Registered User
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used beefcake trail bikes that dont suck
i want a trail bike to replace my well loved sx trail...
about me:
6'3'' 180lbs
ride hand heavy and like it that way
loves hucks to flat and big berms
hates chunder
half skilled half hack
pnw terrain
grad student actively racking up debt
it needs to be:
able to handle 10ft drops
able to pedal up fire roads
long, slack, low, more the better
steep sta
progressive leverage curve
be found used cheap in an xl
it cannot be:
a dentist brand (ibis, evil, pivot, intense, yeti)
non piggyback shock
skinnier than 35mm fork
carbon
linear leverage curve
wagon wheeled
what bike am i?
looking at:
patrol 2017 (better leverage ratio?)
patrol 2018 (sbg geo worth it?)
scout
gg stuff
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other bikes that arent $$$ and dont suck?
giant? trance beefy enough last few years or reign needed?
nukeproof? i love my older solum dj frame but dont know their mtbs
devincis look short
norco? dont know much about last few years
diamondback release was hot for a minute, those still good value? geo looks meh
canfield? banshee? idk much about these brands
anyone holding something in xl for cheap?
some on my radar
https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...arge-bike-2016
https://www.theproscloset.com/produc...29446025904210
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/.../rp-prod170259
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2612349/
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08-09-2019, 10:18 AM #2
Take a look at Knolly. Should be lots of used deliriums out there. Solid bike though geo isn't the longest/lowest/slackest unless you go for new which won't be as cheap.
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08-09-2019, 11:41 AM #3
I'd check out Commencal as well. Great bikes, and well-priced.
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08-09-2019, 11:45 AM #4
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08-09-2019, 11:48 AM #5pura vida
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If you're in the PNW finding a used patrol locally should be pretty easy, that's probably what I'd go with. You didn't say what your budget is but that new DB Mission looks great and a hell of a deal. It's a shame they ruined it by making it 27.5 though
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08-09-2019, 12:05 PM #6
10 ft drops, no piggyback shock amd sub-35 mm stanchion fork, WTF?
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08-09-2019, 12:09 PM #7
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08-09-2019, 12:27 PM #8
Shit, I own an Ibis and haven't been to the dentist in over a year.
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08-09-2019, 12:48 PM #9
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08-09-2019, 01:15 PM #10
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08-09-2019, 01:21 PM #11Registered User
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This guy gets it
130-160mm bike
Beefcake fork and shock
Steep seat tube
Long reach
Not plastic
Can be found used kinda cheap
Budget is 2k ish... depends what I find for my $
A solid frame to build off is the goal, not as concerned with drivetrain and will lace my own wheels after blowing up whatever ones come with
I don’t swap bikes often, hence still riding an 09 sx trail
Good frame geo for tall folk is priority, any other frames ahead of the trend and can be found cheap yet?
Used patrol is top of list, but looks like they changed up linkage 2016-17-18 and idk how or why exactly, 17 looks best on paper but why did they revert back to more linear curve in 18?
Knolly geo not great for tall folk as far as I’ve seen
Someone tell me more about commencal, don’t know them well at all, what model and years?
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08-09-2019, 01:32 PM #12
Here’s some beefcake bikes for ya. Not sure if they suck or not. You’ll have to figure that out for your self.
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08-09-2019, 05:02 PM #13Registered User
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Check the links in my first post and you will find 2 patrols in xl
A 2017 with diamond and meh components for 2k
A 2018 with nicer kit for 2900
Anyone good with linkage analysis? Looks like things changed from 16-17-18, I do not want a linear bike, I don’t want plush, I want lots of ramp up to avoid bottom out on flat landings
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08-09-2019, 06:28 PM #14Registered User
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You got air shocks/spacers and compression damping for ramp these days. I wouldn't say that there are too many linear trail bikes out there at all these days. I'm on a yeti which from what everyone tells me its super linear, but it doesn't bottom when I huck to flat.
Where are you riding that involves setting your bike up for drops to flat?
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08-09-2019, 09:05 PM #15
https://www.commencalusa.com/clash-c102x3534534
New, if you can stretch the budget. Or frame only/build up.Florence Nightingale's Stormtrooper
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08-09-2019, 09:35 PM #16
Recently bought a used Megatrail for not much more than your budget. Seems to fit the bill.
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08-09-2019, 09:59 PM #17Dad core
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New transition geometry is on point for tall guys, I would go with the sbg (2018) patrol or a gg mega trail. I bought an alloy gx sentinel for $2500 last fall so it can be done and it is awesome but does need a bigger shock spacer.
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08-10-2019, 11:52 AM #18Registered User
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spacers and damping are bandaids to shit kinematics, ive got enough time on bikes to know what i like, linear aint it
its not so much where i ride, its how i ride, i like doing dumb shit on bikes, thats the fun part
seems like last year the metal gg's were all over the place, but im not having any luck currently, would love to try one on trail but only fondled while loading bikes
over 3k for decent build, not in my budget...
older years have good geo?
i keep hearing sbg for tall guys is a win, but the leverage still seems like a miss... idk, i havent ridden one just spewing
anyone know other older frames with progressive curves?
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08-10-2019, 12:12 PM #19
Canyon is running a pretty good sale right now. Worth checking out.
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08-10-2019, 04:48 PM #20Dad core
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It's $40 to demo a transition in bellingham and a mile from galbrith, go try one. I think Kona does too.
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08-10-2019, 09:55 PM #21pura vida
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08-12-2019, 08:41 AM #22
In North America, the most common dock height is 48–52 inches (120–130 cm), though heights of up to 55 inches (140 cm) occur as well.
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08-12-2019, 10:53 AM #23www.dpsskis.com
www.point6.com
formerly an ambassador for a few others, but the ski industry is... interesting.
Fukt: a very small amount of snow.
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08-12-2019, 03:46 PM #24
Princess, meet pea.
Florence Nightingale's Stormtrooper
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