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  1. #251
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    Yeah, curious how that trip turned out. Hope everything is good to go

  2. #252
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    What are you seeing good condition LX's go for? I am interested in this as a possibility for my daughter's first vehicle. May go the LC route. We want to buy it early so we can do some mods together. She just turned 12, so getting a little jump on things.

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    Iíve been looking at 05-07 470s for the past few months. Seems the range is $13-18k for no rust, no accident options under 175k miles. Older 100 series LXs or with higher mileage can be had for $10-12k it seems.
    Last edited by ski-wpk; 09-26-2019 at 10:59 PM.

  4. #254
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    And on a related note, about to buy my first LC, a fully baselined 06 with working AHC. 225k miles, from AZ and now CA. Owned by a Mercedes mechanic, very well maintained. Interested in what mags think the price should be.

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    Been slacking on the FJ60 porn.

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    ^^ Clean!

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    Hey everyone... I have this Prado for sale still. If you're in to 4Runners or Hilux... this might be the holy grail in some ways. Solid Front Axle, Diesel. The Prado is the global chassis for the 4runner with slightly more cruiser like body styling. Pretty neat.

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    1990 Land Cruiser Prado LJ78 SX5.

    211,000 Kilometers (131109 Miles)

    2.4L Diesel

    Automatic Transmission



    Runs and drives great.

    Clean Inside and Out.

    Customer owns 2 of them, wants to sell one.

    $6000 in service work done in the last year to bring the truck up to top condition.

    Let me know if you want more details or pics! I've got lots more... TGR upload sucks though.
    Last edited by Leavenworth Skier; 10-03-2019 at 12:06 PM.

  8. #258
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    PM me if you see any deals on a FJ40. Need one pre-1976.

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    Why pre-76?

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    Emissions

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    Quote Originally Posted by basinbeater View Post
    Depends. New? Who knows, who buys new shit? but you ought to be able to find shocks and springs (front torsion bars) for a LC for a reasonable amount (few hundred bucks max), as people are always jacking up their cruisers.
    But, if the AHC works fine, change the fluid, and enjoy the super smooth ride and adjustable ride height. You can mod the switch so it stays in high mode. (not recommended to cruise around in low mode). The AHC rides fantastic when in low, and you can adjust firmness which is pretty sweet as well.
    So - really, whatís an AHC delete cost? New OME 2.5Ē kits look to be around $1800 in materials, and Iím guessing labor is at least $500? About to pull the trigger on an 07 LX. In awesome condition except for the AHC. It works, but only sometimes. Fluid is below the minimum mark, Iím guessing new accumulators are needed. Any reason to try to restore the AHC over getting a lift kit?

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    Iíd say $3000 - $3500 total parts and labor to be safe if itís a reputable shop that also deletes the wiring and hydraulic system.

    $500 labor would just be the suspension work
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    Thanks, much appreciated. My $500 labor was a blind guess. Though sounds like not all AHC components need to be removed necessarily?

    $3-3.5k is a ton for a 13 year old truck, might need to rethink the LX vs LC decision. Work would likely be at Slee.

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    Why donít you call them and ask?

    Not trying to be a dick here, but...

    Youíve been himing and hawing over this for a year, do it or donít do it. Youíre not going to find the perfect vehicle, just pick one and go with it. They are all going to require something.

    If you want a Land Cruiser that requires no maintenance in the short term, buy a new 200 series.

    Just know, Land Cruisers are expensive to work on and a specialty vehicle. Yep, a low production number, hand built luxury SUV. They are overbuilt and they fight you every step of the way. Nothing is quick and easy to fix. All the parts are expensive and many of them are not stocked by your local autozone, meaning ordering from a specialty parts company and waiting 2 weeks. Your local ďJimísĒ auto or Midas or minke shop is going to either a.) not want to work on it or b.) work on it and do something out of spec and require something to be fixed down the road. Promise.

    Youíre going to find specialty shop rates to range from $100 - $150 per hour unless youíve got a guy working out of his garage or something.

    A complete brake job is close to $3000 with parts and labor. Heck, a electric window switch is $700 for the parts alone.

    Iím sorry $3000 is not very much to spend on working on or fixing a land cruiser, better prepare yourself for that. Itís worth it in my opinion as these are some of the best built trucks on the road but itís not a Chevy suburban or something. But also unlike a suburban, 20, 30 years later land cruisers are still going down the road strong and still actually worth something.

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    I own 2 land cruisers - a 2000 and the 1987 that youíve see me post on here. There is a lot of truth to what LVS said. Honestly, while maintenance cost can be higher when things need to be done - these things are built like tanks and very infrequently require maintenance other than oil changes.

    List of things Iíve needed to to on my 2000 over the last decade.
    - radiator change (old rusted out)
    - T belt et al x2 (purchased at 100k now well over 220k)
    - brakes x 2
    - re-seal CV boots
    - diff and transmission flush
    - oil changes every 5k

    That is the entirety of all maintenance I have done on a 19 year old vehicle. Drives tight. Still get complements on it every time I bring it into Toyota for oil.

    Pick one - baseline it - and forget about it as the are the most reliable vehicles on the road to date without a doubt.

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    The potential future ahc issues influenced my decision for a non-AHC 100-series truck. The local shop that I called 5 years ago that has reputation to do this work quoted me minimum if $2.5k going with OEM-type set-up.

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    If properly maintained, AHC will last between 175-200k miles, on average. That was what my LC mechanic told me last week during a timing belt job. AHC is the shit, I love it. (100-Series).

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    I had no idea that LCs are expensive to work on. I always assumed that being a Toyota that the parts were plentiful and at least as easy to work on as any other SUV.

    The more ya know

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    OEM Toyota parts are more than NAPA or O'Reilly because they last like Toyotas. Some stuff is easy to work on if you are willing to research a bit online and then do it. Some stuff is not as easy. I've done a bunch on my LCs like brakes, suspension, fluid changes, belts, etc. Some stuff I've done and will pay someone next time-EGR system leaks, pulling the starter on an 80 etc.

    Repairs and maintenance may cost more but you have to do it less.

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    Some things are a pain, some are easy. Many things are unique on the older cruisers. The axles on pre-1998 are 1930s tech and a huge pain to service. Many shops will service improperly with the incorrect grease, over torqued studs, improperly installed gaskets etc etc etc.

    1998+ are much closer to Tundras and Sequoias in a lot of ways. Older cruisers often the OEM parts are very expensive and reproduction are not available. Newer cruisers can be expensive, especially if the part has a big L stamped on it.

    Itís an overbuilt luxury SUV, the parts are engineered for 250k of service in harsh environments. Many of the parts compared to a 4Runner are much larger, stronger and more expensive.

    They are some of the best vehicles made and with just basic maintenance last for a very very long time.

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    Cruisers are not hard to work on.
    Learning the right combo of swivels and extensions to specific bolts is.
    It's like any vehicle that is built with durability in mind. Over built = more work than a civic you can dismantle with a Walmart $10 1/4 drive socket set.
    I've done an entire Subaru drivetrain swap in half the time it took to dismantle the 80 for an engine rebuild. It's like working on a tractor instead of a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ski-wpk View Post
    Work would likely be at Slee.
    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Why donít you call them and ask?
    Call Amory or Christo and talk to them. They are incredibly knowledgable, local to you do fantastic work. I, as well as other family members have had plenty of work done on our LC's at Slee.

    Nothing against LVS as I know this is his thread and he is trying to run a business but you mentioned Slee and he told you to call them. I totally agree!

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    Iím not really a 100/200 series shop.

    Iím a restoration shop. Our specialty is fj40 and fj60s, and weíre starting to dabble in 80 series.

    I bet they can do a quicker and better job working on 100 series AHC just like we can probably fix an fj40 tub quicker than they can. Itís all about knowledge and practice, and being setup for the job.

    Thatís why I said, call Slee. If someone brought me an AHC job I honestly would turn it down. You have to know your limitations.

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

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    I know Iíve been quiet.

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    Happy to report things are well at the cruiser shop and weíre turning out some seriously kick ass builds.

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    But before we can deliver, we have to do a shakedown. 300hp under the hood made the drive up to the ski area sporty.

    Stay tuned, 2 more custom builds headed out this month

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    Leavenworth Skier's Latest Automotive Folly - More Land Cruisers???

    LWS - thanks for the feedback here and on the 80 series thread. After a long search I finally snagged a 100 series. 182k miles but clean. Florida truck for its 13 years, being delivered tomorrow. Now to start the build.
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