Page 22 of 23 FirstFirst ... 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 LastLast
Results 526 to 550 of 567
  1. #526
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Posts
    5,130
    "wanna go bang in a resort town this weekend?"

    "I'm good, thanks. Fried chicken & self abuse is my jam"

  2. #527
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    The Cone of Uncertainty
    Posts
    46,958
    Well I should have added an asterisk and As far as I can tell

  3. #528
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    17,986
    Quote Originally Posted by wyeaster View Post
    impressive! how long did the swim take?
    70 minutes or so. This is interval training. I don't do straight swims other than open water races.

  4. #529
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Bellevue
    Posts
    5,069
    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Well I should have added an asterisk and As far as I can tell
    As far as I recall

  5. #530
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Tech Bro Central
    Posts
    2,850
    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Well I should have added an asterisk and As far as I can tell
    You bought yourself some credibility with "Low Post Malones"

  6. #531
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    The Cone of Uncertainty
    Posts
    46,958
    Ha. Thanks. Coming from you that means...well, something.

  7. #532
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Loveland, Chair 9.
    Posts
    3,714
    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Saturday - Two hours of weight work - squats, heel raises, standing rows - plus an hour of one legged balance exercises
    Sunday - two hours on singletrack trying to keep up with my buds

    I'm four months into rehab after Achilles rupture surgery. I'm also old enough that Medicare paid for it.

    Getting old ain't for sissies. Gotta be a shark - keep moving or you sink


    That too
    ouch, Achilles.

    whenever i'm running and ramping up the speed when I feel a pull in the ankles; I stop immediately and walk and give it a couple of days; those Achilles rehabs are not worth pushing it.
    Eat em up Houston Cougars !

  8. #533
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,508
    Sat - 1 hour walk. Legs felt like cement. 4 sets of pushups, 4 sets of chinups.
    Sun - 48 minute uphill 1500 vert foot hike, 25 minutes downhill. Legs felt like cement.
    Mon - temps dropped from low 20's C to 12 C. Same uphill 1500 vert foot hike, time dropped from 48 minutes to 32 with same average heart rate as day before and subjective feeling of vitality similar to feelings felt in early 20's. Did a full circuit training 9 lb rock workout during the downhill. Nice well rounded workout. In lieu of a stretch in afternoon, did "domestics yoga" = full bathroom clean, scrub. 75 minutes. Felt like I earned a good greasy dinner so threw three patties on the bbq, added a few kg's of cheese, lathered meat cakes in mayo, balanced out the grease with some red cabbage/broc/cauliflower/olive salad soaked in three cheese ranch dressing, ate it, watched "The Dawn Wall", felt stoked on still being able to do at least a bit of cool stuff in my mid 40's, and called it a day.

    Takeaway - mid 40's heat intolerance and day to variability of performance sux, but, at least I can still drag my old ass up and down the mountain and do my duty of denuding the said mountain...one downhill rock hauling workout at a time.
    Master of mediocrity.

  9. #534
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    4,266
    You do that walk in da nude?

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using TGR Forums mobile app

  10. #535
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Big in Japan
    Posts
    36,266

    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

  11. #536
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,811
    My favorite hike around Castle Peak took me 5 hours when I first did it in my early 40's. Takes me 7 1/2 hours now, even though I work out a lot more now than I did then. Knock off an hour for the time I spent resting my aching shoulders and it's still sad.

  12. #537
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    4,266

    Athletic performance in your 40s?

    Drop some weight, ie, yer clothes, and I bet you’d cut down at least 30 minutes!

    I haven’t taken a walk that long in a while.

    I had a friend that ran Whitney in his 30’s with a friend. Claimed to do it in 6hrs (if I remember right), car to car, via the east face. Running clothes, single water bottle and a single powerbar. Probably would have been closer to 5 hrs if naked.

  13. #538
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,811
    Quote Originally Posted by bodywhomper View Post
    Drop some weight, ie, yer clothes, and I bet you’d cut down at least 30 minutes!

    I haven’t taken a walk that long in a while.

    I had a friend that ran Whitney in his 30’s with a friend. Claimed to do it in 6hrs (if I remember right), car to car, via the east face. Running clothes, single water bottle and a single powerbar. Probably would have been closer to 5 hrs if naked.
    Hey, those clothes were the height of Alpine chic when that picture was taken--air force surplus wool flight pants, two wool shirts, some kind of thermal underwear, gaiters.

  14. #539
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    4,266
    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Hey, those clothes were the height of Alpine chic when that picture was taken--air force surplus wool flight pants, two wool shirts, some kind of thermal underwear, gaiters.
    Big fan of wool

  15. #540
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    your vacation
    Posts
    1,703
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry View Post
    Furious masterbation.


    l]
    hooked up with this chick this week
    sure as fuck we are talking about what we like and don't like when it comes to sex

    got the crazy chick to say furious masterbation over and over
    thanks TGR

    hope you bitches got out and got after it, one more day included in this weekend for the over 40 crowd

  16. #541
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,811
    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    hooked up with this chick this week
    sure as fuck we are talking about what we like and don't like when it comes to sex

    got the crazy chick to say furious masterbation over and over
    thanks TGR

    hope you bitches got out and got after it, one more day included in this weekend for the over 40 crowd
    A woman saying "furious masturbation" over and over is a turn on for you? That's right up there with "fuck me Santa".

  17. #542
    Join Date
    Aug 2018
    Location
    Frantically crawling out of the backseat
    Posts
    357
    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    That is very bad logic.

    "it doesn't matter which types of foods you put in so long as the math works"
    That's not what I said. And, regardless, it's not my logic; just a preponderance of data and biologically sound conclusions.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Now, you can certainly eat a lot of sugar and not be chronically hypergylcemic, but the two tend to go hand-in-hand.
    You are correct in saying that chronic hyperglycemia is a systemic inflammatory state, but so is obesity. In fact, obesity is arguably more so, and for a longer period of time (constant vs. postprandial). So, I'd argue it's the obesity, not the sugar that's the problem.



    Dementia is a broad classification of neurological diseases without a common mechanism, etiology, or set of risk factors. Maybe the Wagner article identifies the specific disease(s) in the cohorts they were studying, but I couldn't find it in the abstract. Even ignoring all of the shortcomings inherent in epidemiological studies, interpreting their results to conclude that "sugar = increased risk of Alzheimer's" (which is what I assume you mean by including "amyloid plaque formation"), without knowing which other neurological diseases they were including, is irresponsible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Chronic hyperglycemia and the resultant systemic inflammation

    ​Yes, eating a lot of sugar in a short period of time can result in elevated blood glucose levels. But eating a lot of carbohydrates of any kind in a short period of time can result in elevated blood glucose levels. Either way, the blood glucose/insulin pathway is generally well regulated in individuals of healthy body weight (some folks are genetically predisposed to poorly regulated blood glucose/insulin, of course) and usually doesn't reach the level of being hyperglycemic. Hyperglycemia and insulin resistance are much more common in the obese, and are diagnostic of metabolic syndrome/pre-diabetes and diabetes. So, I'd argue it's the obesity, not the sugar, that's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    insulin resistance generally precedes obesity.

    We don't know for sure if metabolic syndrome is caused by chronic low-grade inflammation or is worsened by it. But most sources agree that obesity is a risk factor for metabolic syndrome/insulin resistance/diabetes, not the other way around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Consumption of fructose from non-whole fruit sources is the primary driver of NAFLD

    Yep, the liver gets first pass at fructose, no argument about that. And, yes, diets high in sugar (table sugar & high-fructose corn syrup are half fructose, half glucose) are typically correlated with NAFLD, no argument there either. But all three articles you cited also mention the energy/caloric density of the Western diet, high levels of fats and oils, and the context of obesity. In fact, from the O'Keefe paper: "regular SSB consumption was associated with greater risk of fatty liver disease, particularly in overweight and obese individuals" [emphasis is mine]. So, I'd argue it's the obesity, not the sugar, that's the problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Metabolically, fructose is alcohol that doesn't get you drunk..."Fructose is a chronic, dose-dependent hepatotoxin."

    Fructose, is in no way a hepatotoxicant approaching equivalency with alcohol. That's an intentionally inflammatory (pun intended) statement. Alcohol's impact on the liver goes beyond inflammation and fatty liver, and it isn't clear that NAFLD is caused by high fructose consumption or correlated with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Lustig, who is a PhD neuroendocrinologist and Professor emeritus at Stanford

    Lustig is an intelligent and accomplished individual. And while he is correct, I believe he's too narrowly focused on sugar. I've always viewed his work as an example of The Law of the Instrument fallacy. If you ask three professionals how to prevent obesity, an endocrinologist will tell you "keep your insulin levels low", a cardiologist will tell you "eat more Omega-3s", and a kinesiologist will tell you "do more squats". They're all correct, but are all missing the big picture.



    And, while Lustig may have a perfect understanding of the effects of hormones on the nervous system, he gets a few things wrong when it comes to human metabolism. He is simply incorrect when he states that fructose doesn't cause an insulin (and thus, leptin) response like glucose does. Again, table sugar and high-fructose corn syrup (sucrose) are half glucose, and half fructose, and both have been shown to elicit an insulin response and blunt appetite. Furthermore, a insulin resistance can develop from chronically elevated insulin levels. But sugar isn't the only macromolecule that elicits an insulin response; any carbohydrate (simple or complex) will increase insulin, so will protein for that matter. To pick one single dietary component out as evil is missing the larger context. In fact, most sources agree that a fructose consumption between 40 and 90 grams/day is safe and even beneficial. More importantly, since 1970, the increase in obesity in America correlates closer to the increase in overall calories, rather than the increase in sugar.


    As I've said before in this thread, I'm not advocating unrestricted soda consumption, and I believe most people would benefit from a diet focused on lean protein, green vegetables, and complex carbohydrates. But to blame obesity, metabolic syndrome, NAFLD, and Alzheimer's all on sugar is overly simplistic and irresponsibly demonizing. Obesity driven by the chronic intake of excess calories (often resulting from destructive eating habits and sedentary lifestyle) better fits the data and biology. So, for the final time, I'd argue it's the obesity, not the sugar, that's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    big advantage to IF
    I agree. I've been 16/8 IFing consistently for 10 years. I even lift fasted. It's great. But I have to mention that I'm not convinced it provides any metabolic or health benefit beyond ease of scheduling (I don't have to pack a lunch or make time for breakfast), reassurance that I don't have to eat six meals a day to be healthy, and perhaps some slight calorie partitioning benefits.

    But I think that's probably about enough of this bullshit. Let's get back to old farts talking about jacking off and drinking beer.
    Last edited by CS2-6; 08-25-2019 at 11:23 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by digitaldeath View Post
    Here’s the dumbest person on tgr
    "If you don't got Olin, then your store could use some fixin'"

  18. #543
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,833
    Quote Originally Posted by CS2-6 View Post
    Either way, the blood glucose/insulin pathway is generally well regulated in individuals of healthy body weight (some folks are genetically predisposed to poorly regulated blood glucose/insulin, of course) and usually doesn't reach the level of being hyperglycemic. Hyperglycemia and insulin resistance are much more common in the obese, and are diagnostic of metabolic syndrome/pre-diabetes and diabetes. So, I'd argue it's the obesity, not the sugar, that's the problem.



    We don't know for sure if metabolic syndrome is caused by chronic low-grade inflammation or is worsened by it. But most sources agree that obesity is a risk factor for metabolic syndrome/insulin resistance/diabetes, not the other way around.
    Tl/dr. But you're making an argument for causation out of correlation and then with the above "not the other way around" you seem to misunderstand correlation: if obesity is a risk factor for metabolic syndrome/insulin resistance/diabetes, then what would the dataset look like where these are not also risk factors for obesity (aka: the other way around)?

    Risk factors being correlation, not causation, that's gonna go both ways.

  19. #544
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,833

    Ice cream

    I was going to put this in the nutrition science thread, but just couldn't do it. I'm wondering about ice cream as a fuel/re-fuel food immediately after a hard workout.

    Protein, sugar, maybe some growth hormones; what's not to like? Maybe a little "Lite" salt on top for the electrolytes?

    Gotta be a downside to this. What is it?
    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    this is an internet forum, it is assumed no one actually knows what they're talking about, and nothing anyone says here makes any difference. If you came here seeking an informed opinion on the subject, I'm sorry you were disappointed. If you came here knowing it would all be BS and you just wanted to spout about it being BS, go crawl back under a rock.

  20. #545
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Posts
    895

    Athletic performance in your 40s?

    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    Gotta be a downside to this. What is it?
    The downside is the 15 impeding long winded, opinionated messages we’re going to have to read “answering” your question.

  21. #546
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    your vacation
    Posts
    1,703
    Quote Originally Posted by beece View Post
    The downside is the 15 impeding long winded, opinionated messages we’re going to have to read “answering” your question.
    obviously people are confusing this site with some other site
    our they are just desperate to make sure they are the smartest greatest person in the room
    on top of that they probably suck at skiing and we'll never see their girlfriends tits
    this is tgr after all

  22. #547
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    2,833
    Quote Originally Posted by beece View Post
    The downside is the 15 impeding long winded, opinionated messages we’re going to have to read “answering” your question.
    You may be right. Coulda thrown in disclaimers in an attempt to head off 7 or 8 but let's be honest: if it wasn't summer there would be no forced reading, but it is summer, so no amount of disclaimers will help.

  23. #548
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    1,508
    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    I was going to put this in the nutrition science thread, but just couldn't do it. I'm wondering about ice cream as a fuel/re-fuel food immediately after a hard workout.

    Protein, sugar, maybe some growth hormones; what's not to like? Maybe a little "Lite" salt on top for the electrolytes?

    Gotta be a downside to this. What is it?
    fwiw; Dabbled in road bike racing back in the day and seem to recall an interview with one of the big stars in the late 80's...kinda thinkin it was Andy Hampsten after he won the Giro d'Italia. Whoever it was said his recovery food after punishing training rides was a large Dairy Queen Blizzard...something to do with most amount of calories per gram or somethin'. The google sez Greg Lemond was a fan of D.Q. as well:

    "LeMond goes his own way, at his own speed. Bernard Vallet, a teammate in 1985, would spot LeMond in public eating ice cream, which is alleged to be very unwise and unhealthy for cyclists. “But that was Greg,” Vallet would say later. “Rules do not apply to him.”More than one adviser, close or otherwise, cautioned LeMond against gulping down pizza and cheeseburgers and Dairy Queen cones, his admitted weaknesses. Greg didn’t care, even though studies had proven to him that one extra pound could mean 30 to 60 seconds in a 12-mile climb. He and his wife picked a small town in Belgium called Kortrijk to be their home away from home, whenever he was competing in Europe, partly because several grocery stores there stocked his favorite peanut butter and potato chips."

    Hampsten, charging in a Blizzard, giro d'italia, 1988
    Name:  Untitled.png
Views: 178
Size:  369.3 KB
    Master of mediocrity.

  24. #549
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,811
    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post
    I was going to put this in the nutrition science thread, but just couldn't do it. I'm wondering about ice cream as a fuel/re-fuel food immediately after a hard workout.

    Protein, sugar, maybe some growth hormones; what's not to like? Maybe a little "Lite" salt on top for the electrolytes?

    Gotta be a downside to this. What is it?
    Brain freeze

  25. #550
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Not Brooklyn
    Posts
    6,089
    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    obviously people are confusing this site with some other site
    our they are just desperate to make sure they are the smartest greatest person in the room
    on top of that they probably suck at skiing and we'll never see their girlfriends tits
    this is tgr after all
    I read a study years ago that showed chocolate milk was a particularly good recovery drink compared to other popular options, but I think it was looking at strength training.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •