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  1. #551
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    Yeah, the less processed cacao nibs or powder plus a banana blended with almond milk is what I like. I'm not sure if it helps, but I like the taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    I read a study years ago that showed chocolate milk was a particularly good recovery drink compared to other popular options, but I think it was looking at strength training.
    That's what got me thinking about ice cream: if chocolate milk is good, chocolate cream with extra sugar and magnesium salts (and maybe a little guar gum) should be better, right? The calorie density aspect is compelling, but my lactose tolerance limits me to a spoonful on the way to the shower.

    I'd do more of the non-dairy substitutes like Jackstraw describes, but bubbly foam drinks are even less tolerable. Probably need to adjust the blender technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono View Post

    I'd do more of the non-dairy substitutes like Jackstraw describes, but bubbly foam drinks are even less tolerable. Probably need to adjust the blender technique.
    Agreed.
    Significantly less bubbly foam with almond milk vs cow and the banana helps with both fwiw.

  4. #554
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    I like the nibs idea. Might incorporate a little better than dark chocolate.

    I had a way overpriced smoothie at the overpriced juice place recently. It was Brazil nut milk, cocoa powder, peppermint oil, coconut oil, dates, and salt. It was delicious and would be really easy to make at home, though I think I'd sub in some almond milk.
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    I'm a Celiac so had to figure out an easy, cheap gluten free fuel system for workouts.

    For shorter 1-2 hour hikes/bike rides preload with a few spoonfulls of dates soaked in maple syrup.
    For longer hiking days or full day winter ski touring missions, preload with the dates/maple syrup, reload every hour with the same. Add peanut butter to the mix and gulp a bit down every few hours for the fat and protein.

    The dates/maple syrup/peanut butter combo makes a pretty good post shorter hike/ski tour outing recovery snack...tastes good and sweet. Seems to stick to the ribs enough to stave off starvation till the next real meal. Cheap and super easy.

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    Athletic performance in your 40s?

    Iím well into my 40ís and have been able to completely overhaul my physical condition through diet, IF, (not 7 days a wk), lifting and conditioning. Very little in the way of exercise based cardio unless it is for fun, (skinning, hiking). I suppose I go for a short trail run from time to time.
    Anyway, I am skiing better both up and down, hiking faster and farther without feeling exhausted as quick and participating in sports with my kids that I steered clear of a couple years ago in fear of hurting myself.

    Things just hurt and ache more now.
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  7. #557
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    a succesful day is nothing more than bong hit, banana and bagel, the three b's keep you moving throw in some coffee and you have a hippie speedball ready to roll

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    Quote Originally Posted by swissiphic View Post
    I'm a Celiac so had to figure out an easy, cheap gluten free fuel system for workouts.

    For shorter 1-2 hour hikes/bike rides preload with a few spoonfulls of dates soaked in maple syrup.
    For longer hiking days or full day winter ski touring missions, preload with the dates/maple syrup, reload every hour with the same. Add peanut butter to the mix and gulp a bit down every few hours for the fat and protein.

    The dates/maple syrup/peanut butter combo makes a pretty good post shorter hike/ski tour outing recovery snack...tastes good and sweet. Seems to stick to the ribs enough to stave off starvation till the next real meal. Cheap and super easy.

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    I'm sure this tastes better than it looks, but Jesus...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    I'm sure this tastes better than it looks, but Jesus...
    lol, I hear ya.

    Looks more appealing in the winter ski touring form. Chop up the dates, add maple syrup and peanut butter, melt it all together in a frying pan, make little spring rolls out of it with rice paper and chop the roll up into bite sized chunks. Great for ski touring and cold weather where cool temps keep the works from melting into messy globs of the constituents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    a succesful day is nothing more than bong hit, banana and bagel, the three b's keep you moving throw in some coffee and you have a hippie speedball ready to roll
    Yet another useless post from you in this thread. Are you just lacking attention or what?


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    Just posting to say I went for my first run as a 40 year old yesterday and recovered just fine. I think it's safe to say we can close the thread now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Yet another useless post from you in this thread. Are you just lacking attention or what?


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    Right? Totally wiffed his 3B's by leaving out Bacon and BJ's.
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  13. #563
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    Just saw this story in the NYTimes today: "Aerobic Fitness May Trump Strength for Metabolic Health"
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/04/w...ic-health.html

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    Probably true but personally, I believe strength training to maintain bone and muscle mass is far more important in later years. As the study says:

    "The research involved only healthy, young, male Finns, though, and does not show that endurance changed people’s metabolomes, but only that their fitness and metabolites were linked."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Probably true but personally, I believe strength training to maintain bone and muscle mass is far more important in later years.
    Of course it is, but that wasn't what the study was attempting to determine. Bottom line is it's probably best to do a little of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Of course it is, but that wasn't what the study was attempting to determine. Bottom line is it's probably best to do a little of both.
    You absolutely need to do both. I was definitely pushing the importance of strength training earlier in the thread, but didn't mean to imply you could ignore aerobic endurance. The point was more that IME people seem more inclined to do aerobic exercise than lift weights, which is great, but it doesn't slow down the inevitable post-40 loss of muscle mass, bone density and T/HGH production the way strength training does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Yet another useless post from you in this thread. Are you just lacking attention or what?


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