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    First wake up call for me mid 40s was on a trip to Boston with the family to see my sister's family. We did the usual brick walk stuff then decided to go check out the Bunker Hill monument. It was already a long uphill walk from the parking spot to the building. Wife looked up and said "no way" so I trotted in with the two kids, ages 4 and 6. The steps were bigger than I expected and lots more of them LOL. We passed some dude half way up who was puking out a little window. Did I mention it was hot as hell? Anyway, we made it up, rested a few minutes, then trotted down. Upon exit noticed dozens of people laying in the grass like a combat casualties zone. I could barely walk back to the car. That climb about kicked my ass. Ten years later, pretty sure I can still do it, but would probably take longer, maybe stop for a couple minutes to puke half way up LOL..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2-6 View Post
    Don't buy either. Just do the Big Three. It's not sexy, but that's how you know it works.
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    Yeah no wonder the comments are disabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Was that not what this thread was about? Huh.
    Swing and a miss, big fella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beece View Post
    Well that was just mean. Funny. But mean.
    All in good humor. Hey, I'm no badass, either. Swimming is a great equalizer. I've gotten my dick handed to me by 14 year old girls in the pool (ok, that sounded weird, but you know what I mean ).

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    what's a swimming creeper? A crawler? A breast stroker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    what's a swimming creeper? A crawler? A breast stroker?
    I believe they're called swim coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Swing and a miss, big fella.
    Well back to the drawing board then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    I believe they're called swim coaches.

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    When I was in my 20's and 30's I had an easy time maintaining my weight. Around 41 I noticed I had to start watching my diet just a little more closely, but still didn't have to increase my workouts or activities. At age 42 I picked up martial arts again so if I got lazy with my diet the extra activity would help maintain my body. Then at around age 45 I noticed a weight gain around the holidays and just figured it was my poor diet choices and that after going back to my normal diet the weight would come off. Unfortunately it didn't and thus began my struggle with controlling my weight. I increased my workouts, dramatically in some areas, and the weight wasn't coming off very easily. This lead to some injuries, which cause me to have to slow down while I healed thus making weight control that much more difficult. At 46 decided that I have to pay much closer attention to my diet. I have started counting calories, while continuing my workouts and activities. It is paying off as I'm losing weight and getting closer to my goal. I've also found that decreasing my cardio a little and increasing my weight training has helped. This the opposite thing that I did in my early 40's because back then I found weight training just made my wider all over and limited my flexibility, which hindered some of my activities like mountain biking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    I believe they're called swim coaches.
    Yep, our Master's swim coach from when I lived in MA is now banned for life from USA Swimming and removed from the ASCA Hall of Fame. Sadly, for some reason, it does not surprise me even though I never got a creeper feeling from him. But then, I only swam with the masters group and was never really around the kids except when we crossed paths in the locker room or pool deck as practices switched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SumJongGuy View Post
    First wake up call for me mid 40s was on a trip to Boston with the family to see my sister's family. We did the usual brick walk stuff then decided to go check out the Bunker Hill monument. It was already a long uphill walk from the parking spot to the building. Wife looked up and said "no way" so I trotted in with the two kids, ages 4 and 6. The steps were bigger than I expected and lots more of them LOL. We passed some dude half way up who was puking out a little window. Did I mention it was hot as hell? Anyway, we made it up, rested a few minutes, then trotted down. Upon exit noticed dozens of people laying in the grass like a combat casualties zone. I could barely walk back to the car. That climb about kicked my ass. Ten years later, pretty sure I can still do it, but would probably take longer, maybe stop for a couple minutes to puke half way up LOL..

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    You know, in my experience, if you really want to lose weight and stay thin, Giardia is amazingly effective, and requires almost no willpower.

    Disclaimer: I am not a doctor. Or a dentist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2bjenny View Post
    Yep, our Master's swim coach from when I lived in MA is now banned for life from USA Swimming and removed from the ASCA Hall of Fame. Sadly, for some reason, it does not surprise me even though I never got a creeper feeling from him. But then, I only swam with the masters group and was never really around the kids except when we crossed paths in the locker room or pool deck as practices switched.
    My wife's theory is that all kids' coaches are perverts because no one else would actually want to be around kids that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Was that not what this thread was about? Huh.
    thats not really an atheletic performance unless those kids had score cards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grange View Post
    When I was in my 20's and 30's I had an easy time maintaining my weight. Around 41 I noticed I had to start watching my diet just a little more closely, but still didn't have to increase my workouts or activities. At age 42 I picked up martial arts again so if I got lazy with my diet the extra activity would help maintain my body. Then at around age 45 I noticed a weight gain around the holidays and just figured it was my poor diet choices and that after going back to my normal diet the weight would come off. Unfortunately it didn't and thus began my struggle with controlling my weight. I increased my workouts, dramatically in some areas, and the weight wasn't coming off very easily. This lead to some injuries, which cause me to have to slow down while I healed thus making weight control that much more difficult. At 46 decided that I have to pay much closer attention to my diet. I have started counting calories, while continuing my workouts and activities. It is paying off as I'm losing weight and getting closer to my goal. I've also found that decreasing my cardio a little and increasing my weight training has helped. This the opposite thing that I did in my early 40's because back then I found weight training just made my wider all over and limited my flexibility, which hindered some of my activities like mountain biking.
    This cannot be repeated often enough:

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive View Post
    Get fit in the gym; lose weight in the kitchen.
    I said the same thing in different wording later on and people jumped my shit. But, whatever, it's the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    This cannot be repeated often enough:



    I said the same thing in different wording later on and people jumped my shit. But, whatever, it's the truth.
    FIXED:

    "Get fit in the mountains"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    This cannot be repeated often enough:



    I said the same thing in different wording later on and people jumped my shit. But, whatever, it's the truth.
    Methinks you doth protest too much. You got your shit jumped because you're under 40 and haven't experienced what Grange just described, and you made it sound like it was easy. What he describes is real for a vast majority of people over 40, and it isn't easy. I totally 100% agree that diet is the key to losing weight or keeping it off; it's often been said that you can't out-exercise a bad diet. But what worked in my 20s and 30s diet wise doesn't work anymore. Simply paying attention to what I ate would keep me at a good target weight of 170 or less, without any effort. And if I got fat because I was eating a shitton of donuts (what occurred at one point in my life, at 30), I was able to drop it all with very little effort, went from 185 to 160 in 3-4 months of really dieting.

    But with that same "watching what I eat" and adding in limiting alcohol consumption, I found the weight creeping up in my mid-40s, to the point that at 50, I was eating a pretty good diet but could not get below 180-185. It wasn't that I was unable to out-exercise a BAD diet, it's that even a pretty good diet wasn't enough. Since I've been keto for the last 15 months, I have dropped back down, but that is pretty drastic and most people find it not sustainable.

    The point is that except for some genetic freaks, shit changes drastically as you get older. And requires a fuckton more diligence and time to hold on to where you were in your 30s. Until you've experienced that (and maybe you're one of the genetic freaks that won't), it's easy to act like it is easy.
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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    watch out for snakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Methinks you doth protest too much. You got your shit jumped because you're under 40 and haven't experienced what Grange just described, and you made it sound like it was easy. What he describes is real for a vast majority of people over 40, and it isn't easy. I totally 100% agree that diet is the key to losing weight or keeping it off; it's often been said that you can't out-exercise a bad diet. But what worked in my 20s and 30s diet wise doesn't work anymore. Simply paying attention to what I ate would keep me at a good target weight of 170 or less, without any effort. And if I got fat because I was eating a shitton of donuts (what occurred at one point in my life, at 30), I was able to drop it all with very little effort, went from 185 to 160 in 3-4 months of really dieting.

    But with that same "watching what I eat" and adding in limiting alcohol consumption, I found the weight creeping up in my mid-40s, to the point that at 50, I was eating a pretty good diet but could not get below 180-185. It wasn't that I was unable to out-exercise a BAD diet, it's that even a pretty good diet wasn't enough. Since I've been keto for the last 15 months, I have dropped back down, but that is pretty drastic and most people find it not sustainable.

    The point is that except for some genetic freaks, shit changes drastically as you get older. And requires a fuckton more diligence and time to hold on to where you were in your 30s. Until you've experienced that (and maybe you're one of the genetic freaks that won't), it's easy to act like it is easy.
    I've actually found that for me, to go from really fit to extremely fit (ie trimmer/stronger than an active American to trimmer/stronger than an average athlete) it's not food. It's the exercise type and frequency.

    I mean, assuming I'm not eating a shit ton of donuts or something...

    The biggest eating change that I made was to cut out all food between meals unless prefueling for exercise, and to remove all non-alcoholic drinks that weren't water. That seems to have been enough combined with exercise type. No limit on beer needed.

    My body type may be unusual. What do I know? I just know what works for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beece View Post
    You know, in my experience, if you really want to lose weight and stay thin, Giardia is amazingly effective, and requires almost no willpower.
    Ask my doctor if itís right for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    Ask my doctor if itís right for me?
    Side effects may include ...

    These side effects may be heightened in effect during kayaking trips in Alaska.

    Donít ask me how I know.

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    41. Still an all right skier and I ski better than I used to. Hard to measure though because the gear improved so much.
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    Climbing makes it easy to compare your fitness. I crush stuff I couldn't do a few years back. Bouldering my first V10s. So technically I'm stronger than ever. And I've been climbing since my early 20s, so I can compare. And I can do a one arm pull up these days which was a concept of fantasy in my mid 20s when I was an average climber. (5.11/12routes )

    But I noticed my weight starting to go up. As a climber you have a pretty good idea of your weight range. (used to be 76 to 80 kg) but now I have broken the 80kg (175pounds? At about 6ft)barrier and try to get back. I still hope it's the biking to work and all those unnecessary leg muscles

    . It made me realize I'm getting older and that I have to start with endurance training again.

    I don't think I'm fat by normal standards, but compared to others in the climbing gym I carry around a lot of dead weight. Since most of them are younger AND weaker than me it's still all right I guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Methinks you doth protest too much. You got your shit jumped because you're under 40 and haven't experienced what Grange just described, and you made it sound like it was easy. What he describes is real for a vast majority of people over 40, and it isn't easy. I totally 100% agree that diet is the key to losing weight or keeping it off; it's often been said that you can't out-exercise a bad diet. But what worked in my 20s and 30s diet wise doesn't work anymore. Simply paying attention to what I ate would keep me at a good target weight of 170 or less, without any effort. And if I got fat because I was eating a shitton of donuts (what occurred at one point in my life, at 30), I was able to drop it all with very little effort, went from 185 to 160 in 3-4 months of really dieting.

    But with that same "watching what I eat" and adding in limiting alcohol consumption, I found the weight creeping up in my mid-40s, to the point that at 50, I was eating a pretty good diet but could not get below 180-185. It wasn't that I was unable to out-exercise a BAD diet, it's that even a pretty good diet wasn't enough. Since I've been keto for the last 15 months, I have dropped back down, but that is pretty drastic and most people find it not sustainable.

    The point is that except for some genetic freaks, shit changes drastically as you get older. And requires a fuckton more diligence and time to hold on to where you were in your 30s. Until you've experienced that (and maybe you're one of the genetic freaks that won't), it's easy to act like it is easy.
    At that point in the thread it was being suggested that if you are ill or injured it's impossible to not get fat, which is patently false. I stand by my statement that if you eat a whole food diet and fast a couple days a week you'll find it difficult to impossible to get fat, regardless of age or personal genetics. This is not a personal anecdote, it's supported by a wide body of research, hence the fact that I'm not (quite) 40 yet is irrelevant. Obviously, for psychological and sociological reasons it is difficult for most people. The grass is always greener, I guess. I eat a ridiculous amount of food. The idea of not eating at all a couple days per week sounds glorious.

    At the risk of incurring further wrath: I have a habit of observing the contents of people's carts at the grocery store. The level of congruency between what's in the cart and the shape of the person pushing it is usually high to very high. Not a moral judgement, just an observation. Eat whatever makes you happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subtle plague View Post
    And I can do a one arm pull up these days which was a concept of fantasy in my mid 20s when I was an average climber. (5.11/12routes )
    Damn, respect.

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