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  1. #1
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    Arrow New Marker Tech touring binding 20/21?

    Kye posted this image in his stories on Instagram a while back.
    Looks like a Kingpin heelpiece + weird shaped new toe piece.
    On the table: Jester 18 Pro, Alpinist and a skiboot with tech inserts.
    The white part looks like a lever to me. Marker needs a safety release in the toes to compete with the Shift.
    Anybody with more info? Maybe even pictures.
    Lets help Marker after this well set up marketing image and start up the hype train..

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    That's not a Kingpin heel, it's a Jester/Griffon heel. New toe is interesting though. Why do you want to help Marker? If you're connected to them you should say so.

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    Great, still with the Jester heel. Because every binding should need a rubber mallet to set the heel all the way to the worm screw track.
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

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    Yeah, that's what everyone needs, a binding to compete with shift, that breaks down immediately.

    I wonder how long it will take marker to overcome the bad experience with the kingpin.

    I still remember all the pre releases if 30 years ago.

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    Jesus I am still leery of the alpinist despite it looking good on paper. Something with even more moving parts is just bad news...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    That's not a Kingpin heel, it's a Jester/Griffon heel. New toe is interesting though. Why do you want to help Marker? If you're connected to them you should say so.
    jong probably isn’t coming back to explain his motives
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    Looks like a fucking monstrosity anyway. Nuke the thread!

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    actually i think jong is fucking with marker
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    Really feel for the pros who ski on Marker and will be required to beta test this shit.

    Aww -- who am I kidding?

    The public will beta test this shit for Marker.

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    My guess is no progress was made during that photo session..."uh, should we combine them?" Hahaha

    Ski jesters and jester pros on some skis and never had a problem with them, save for a couple extra seconds stepping in time to time.

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    Marker is totally capable of making a heel that doesn't require a ton of forward pressure and is a snap to step in to. The TCX 12 is super easy to get in to. For that matter, my 20 DIN Marker Comp bindings are super easy to step in to.

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    Intriguing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyderjon View Post
    That's not a Kingpin heel, it's a Jester/Griffon heel. New toe is interesting though. Why do you want to help Marker? If you're connected to them you should say so.
    Ha, sorry, I typed to quickly, but yes I meant Jester heelpiece. I do not want to help Marker nor am I connected to them, sorry... I was just suprised this was not on TGR yet. What happened to the Gear rumors ****/**** enthousiasm??

    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    jong probably isnít coming back to explain his motives
    Sorry dude, I don't live inside these forums + different timezone..

    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    actually i think jong is fucking with marker
    A bit, yes. I never understood why there was no toe piece upgrade after two years of the Kingpin. I know they tried to get a safety release in the toe piece but could not get it right and got the Kingpin on the market without. But why not keep developing and get an upgrade out after 2 or 3 years? Give the people what they want. Now the Shift destroyed the Kingpin sales big time, at least here in Europe. That plus the recall F-up will make it really hard to get their name up again.

    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Really feel for the pros who ski on Marker and will be required to beta test this shit.

    Aww -- who am I kidding?

    The public will beta test this shit for Marker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    Marker is totally capable of making a heel that doesn't require a ton of forward pressure and is a snap to step in to. The TCX 12 is super easy to get in to. For that matter, my 20 DIN Marker Comp bindings are super easy to step in to.
    Agree. The TCX and Exell race heel are one billion time better than the Jester/Griffon/Squire heel. Yes, one billion times better.
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

    fire

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    If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.

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    I dont ride marker bindings but see a lot if FWT riders on them in competition. Ive always wondered why guys and gals ride them at the highest level of skiing when it seems the majority of people on this forum say they are not capable?

    Regardless, hope they make a legit competitor to the shift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trex_9 View Post
    I dont ride marker bindings but see a lot if FWT riders on them in competition. Ive always wondered why guys and gals ride them at the highest level of skiing when it seems the majority of people on this forum say they are not capable?

    Regardless, hope they make a legit competitor to the shift.

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    Most of them are paid to use Marker products.

    Most folks on here would use them too if they were paid $1000 a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trex_9 View Post
    I dont ride marker bindings but see a lot if FWT riders on them in competition. Ive always wondered why guys and gals ride them at the highest level of skiing when it seems the majority of people on this forum say they are not capable?

    Regardless, hope they make a legit competitor to the shift.

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    Because they couldn't get Pivots.
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

    fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Most of them are paid to use Marker products.

    Most folks on here would use them too if they were paid $1000 a year.
    Most folks on TGR would use them if they got 2-3 free pairs a year, or if their ski sponsor had a relationship with Marker and they came with the skis . . . which I bet is the case with a lot of the FWT people. I know a few FWT competitors and not many of them get actual money from a binding company.

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    this made me laugh

    Lets help Marker after this well set up marketing image and start up the hype train..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    Most folks on TGR would use them if they got 2-3 free pairs a year, or if their ski sponsor had a relationship with Marker and they came with the skis . . . which I bet is the case with a lot of the FWT people. I know a few FWT competitors and not many of them get actual money from a binding company.
    Funny how many "sponsored" athletes on ski companies affiliated with Marker have skied Pivots in the past, I'd have to look at current athletes to see what the current situation is.
    what's orange and looks good on hippies?

    fire

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    If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for problems caused by the government I'd be a rich fat film maker in a baseball hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waxman View Post
    Funny how many "sponsored" athletes on ski companies affiliated with Marker have skied Pivots in the past, I'd have to look at current athletes to see what the current situation is.
    Markus Eder and George Rodney (VŲlkl) and Leo Slemmet (Blizzard) use Markers. Don't know if anyone on the FWT is on K2. When we mounted Berkeley Patterson's Rustler 11's last year, he brought in a 2-year old pair of STH2 16's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm Hood View Post
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    We better crank these down you Marker out we donít win


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    Quote Originally Posted by fat yeti View Post
    We better crank these down you Marker out we donít win


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    Quote Originally Posted by gregL View Post
    Don't know if anyone on the FWT is on K2.
    Grifen Moller?

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