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10-18-2019, 04:25 PM #51
Something that will weigh more than Shifts while only offering the versatility of Tectons?
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10-18-2019, 06:52 PM #52Registered User
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Versatility of Tectons? What are you referring to?
CAST 1.0 of you can find plates, or 2.0 if you need the newest thing. Have one less beer, eat one less cheeseburger, then ski down on a real binding.
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10-18-2019, 07:20 PM #53Registered User
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10-19-2019, 05:54 AM #54
New Marker Tech touring binding 20/21?
FWIW, I’ve spent 30 days a season on the same pair of Vipecs for about 3 years straight without issue (2-8 decent sized cliffs per day... in Zak’s old stomping grounds since you’re a Baker guy). The plastic concern is FUD, imo. They work great and I trust them way more than the Kingpin when it comes to keeping me injury free. But if it works for you, no reason to change it up!
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10-19-2019, 06:11 AM #55
aint sure how many seasons you've been in the shop
but in my 23
MARKERS are the #1 fucked up, broke, recalled, didnt even have all the screws in the box to start with,
bindings
every season
and the kingpin was a fuckin joke
piss poor recall and custy service
fuck we still cant even git an alpinist jig outta them"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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10-19-2019, 09:01 AM #56Registered User
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I never said I worked in a shop.
Mine work so I stick with them
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10-19-2019, 09:11 AM #57
Probably a good idea because they are the exception.
You sample N - 1 is far less than any shop employee has seen. But for real just talk to anyone shop — hell my local shop won’t even sell them because of all the hassles during their early production.
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10-19-2019, 09:43 AM #58Registered User
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My roommate worked in a shop for 6 years, I usually stop by the shop to hang with friends a few times a week in the winter. Most of them are on Kingpins with no issues. We all chat about what gear we like and what works, as well has hate on the shit people try to sell. Shifts get a lot of hate. Kingpins haven’t been getting hate, even praise for how great they ski.
Look in the lift/tram line at your local resort, beginning of last year we saw a bunch of Shifts, by the end of the year almost all were gone, except the Atomic athletes and a few stragglers who admitted they hadn’t skied much last winter. As I’ve said, Kingpins have worked really well for me, Shifts didn’t. I’ve got 75 to 100 days on them since they were released, with no issues. Shifts were scary, 15 days on them and I came out 8 times, most when I definitely shouldn’t of come out.
We are all allowed our own opinion. I like Kingpins, you don’t. That’s alright. I hope Marker hits a home run with these new bindings.
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10-20-2019, 07:34 AM #59
with respect to your burly friends Gunder, I have in fact seen two sets of toes from the post-recall batch fail in exactly the same way i experienced on 3 toe pieces, all of which were from before the recall period.
They have never acknowledged the weakness in the heel rails either as it happens less frequently and so it just gets left as warranty.
About that too, my recall toes took 4 and a half months to show up. One warranty experience was great, the other also took months.
I don't expect stuff to last forever. I do expect it to last a couple seasons. The only other binding I've had that simply could not accomplish getting through a whole season without detonating was rad1 and at least you mostly only lost your risers.
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10-20-2019, 09:35 AM #60
The Kingpin heel track I’m willing to chalk up to an unfortunate but acceptable causality of chasing weight. The toe pins, not so much. Pretty much all the heel track issues I saw were from either bigger aggressive skiers who spent a fair amount of time in the resort; or some combination. Honestly, good on Marker for warranting those bingings. The toes, again, were a real problem.
Didn’t stop me from getting some Alpinists and those bindings have been great. I might even consider some KingPin V-Weaks since it uses an Alpinist toe.
The new binding for me is out (for now) because it uses a Jester heel which sucks. Just use the Excell heel. Way better.
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10-20-2019, 09:43 AM #61
Oh shit that’s gunna be one heavy mfer
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10-20-2019, 10:12 AM #62
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10-20-2019, 10:29 AM #63Registered User
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As a counter argument, around here there have been very few issues with the Shifts from different shop guys I know including arguably the largest local/online dealer Monod's (I ride with the buyer and he said this summer they had no issues and local rippers were stoked).
I was also very happy with my second year Kingpins, I thought they were bomber and worked fine.
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10-20-2019, 10:57 AM #64
Don't blame you for getting rid of them if they don't work for you, but if they tested out for Salomon/Atomic warranty Dept.
and they said they were fine and your cousin bought them from you w/ zero issues, don't you think there could be a slight chance of user error here?
I have 2 pair of Shifts. One Atomic, one Salomon. Haven't had any issues but I got both pairs mounted really late in the season and have only been used inbounds 1 day each. Mine are set @ 13 but all my other bindings are too. We'll see this year.
I'm hoping this Marker binding works great!
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10-20-2019, 01:48 PM #65Registered User
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Right. I’m not sure how the shop having no evidence something wrong, the warranty dept. not finding anything, and the cousin having no issues = the entire product is garbage/there's an Amer orchestrated conspiracy to keep it quiet.
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10-20-2019, 01:53 PM #66
Regarding Kingpins failures, don't forget that in addition to the version with pins that were prone to breaking, there was the version that had pins that would loosen and even fall out.
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10-20-2019, 04:20 PM #67
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10-21-2019, 02:29 PM #68
Hi, this bindung looks for sure interesting.
maybe Marker is following this inventor / start-up / new prototype (just for the front toe construction): https://bavarianalpinemanifest.com/produkt/
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10-24-2019, 03:49 PM #69Registered User
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Well its less "skiing" but some of the frame bindings will take a mountaineering boot so they're a decent option for ice climb/ AK approaches.
And wasn't there two different recalls for Kingpin toe pins?
I mean all touring bindings minus the frame ones need tech toes :PTLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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10-24-2019, 07:49 PM #70
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10-25-2019, 04:54 AM #71
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10-25-2019, 09:03 AM #72Registered User
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10-25-2019, 09:21 AM #73Registered User
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True. But for people who want a ski that can tour, but also want to ski alpine boots on inbounds days it's at least an option.
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10-25-2019, 09:45 AM #74
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10-25-2019, 10:54 AM #75
The setup of the height of the AFD on the shift is such a PITA that it’s a hassle to switch between boots though.
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