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Thread: Vail Gondola WTF
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07-09-2019, 04:34 PM #51Funky But Chic
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07-09-2019, 04:35 PM #52Funky But Chic
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07-09-2019, 04:47 PM #53
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07-09-2019, 04:56 PM #54
Could be ...
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07-09-2019, 09:08 PM #55
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07-10-2019, 07:52 AM #56
^^^ Huh? No kidding? So lift maintenance types perfect gender neutral pronouns too?
Brandine: Now Cletus, if I catch you with pig lipstick on your collar one more time you ain't gonna be allowed to sleep in the barn no more!
Cletus: Duly noted.
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07-10-2019, 02:07 PM #57Registered User
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"hey zer, toss me that wrench"
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07-10-2019, 07:36 PM #58
Little story ...
I bought these best quality SS bolts from a marine supply store.
1/4" Bolts with with plastic-loc nuts.
Now, after install, I had to reinstall and I successfully undid most of the nuts.
But one. The plastic-loc nut just would not budge.
Used as small 4" rachet to undo said nut with wrist-strength applied.
Bam. Bolt broke in half with a nice pointy break showing the rotation of the fatigued metal.
That wasn't meant to excite you.
Just that I was surprised how bad SS bolts were that a plastic-loc nut would bust them.
I sure hope they don't use SS bolts with plastic-loc nuts on that thing!
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07-10-2019, 07:47 PM #59Funky But Chic
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It's Chinesium. It's not always bad by any means but you can't trust it. Which makes it useless, to me. When I fix something I want it to stay fixed for a while.
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07-11-2019, 03:33 PM #60Banned
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Where's good ole Pittsburgh steel when you need it?
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07-11-2019, 03:39 PM #61
Vail Gondola WTF
Glad I went Ikon. I don’t need no bolt shearing off while passing by 50’ above the ground.
Lots of capital going into Ikonic Resorts.
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07-11-2019, 04:16 PM #62
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07-11-2019, 05:26 PM #63
They probably have a sensor measuring the pressure on the hydraulic system that’s keeping the cable tension. Sudden change, alarm goes off in lift ops office, shut er down!
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07-11-2019, 06:57 PM #64
The Nyloc nut with actually backed off about half a centimeter ... then it locked hard.
Then the bolt sheared in half ...
Plastic lock in the Nyloc literally broke the bolt.
Was a Nyloc nut.
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07-11-2019, 07:32 PM #65
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07-11-2019, 07:51 PM #66
Gremlin alarm is a once a year PM but everybody gundecks it so it was last done about 1977.
watch out for snakes
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07-12-2019, 05:38 AM #67Registered User
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07-12-2019, 11:26 PM #68
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07-13-2019, 07:02 AM #69riser4 - Ignore me! Please!
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07-21-2019, 07:17 AM #70
A good report on the incident. They pulled the public CPTSB report.
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/07/...-safety-board/
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07-21-2019, 07:45 AM #71
Could have been a bad batch of bolts.
They got a deal on them from China I'd wager.watch out for snakes
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07-21-2019, 08:04 AM #72Registered User
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The original pic and the latest article stating the bolts were "sheared" don't really seem to hand in hand. Any dental engineers want to expound? If there was a rotational force on the upper half,sure. But the pic shows them stretched or pulled imo
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07-21-2019, 08:33 AM #73
Bad bolts or somebody got too happy with the impact wrench.
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07-21-2019, 08:55 AM #74Registered User
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After mulling on this for awhile, I came to the conclusion that the original picture was taken sometime after an emergency partial repair. Someone climbed up there with that bucket and wrench and replaced the bolts that had sheared off with longer bolts, and just snugged them to try to keep the tower from going any farther. And then climbed back down until the powers could inspect the situation and decide on the proper solution.
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07-21-2019, 09:19 AM #75
The other thing is when the tower leaned it put hard stress areas on the opposite flange. The whole tower should be fluxed to see if there are any cracks not visable to the naked eye.
watch out for snakes
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