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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    Boomers slightly better than the silent generation. Gen X slightly better than the boomers. Millienials mos def smarter & cooler than Gen X.
    Get off my lawn. And how come nobody is talking about the genYers? That gap between X and the Millennials? I am squarely in the middle of X, however my little sister is a cusp child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphee View Post
    At the company I work for, my favorite thing about boomers is that they got a retirement buyout a few years back to the tune of 250K (depending on years of service). Due to some stupid ass company policy they're allowed to come back as contractors making 30-40/hour doing next to nothing and handing in garbage work when they do. Every one of these assholes has a pension, a 401k, SS, and a huge buyout yet they've fucked up their retirement so badly that they continue screw over young folks who are beating on the door to get in. You love to see it.
    Nothing against DD and the arrangement he has with his mom, but having a kid (or two) living at home in the basement, plus food bills and such, all after you've spent some or likely most of that 250K on their college, it isn't like you can just retire. Benny's different, he never had kids. All he pays for besides himself is a cat sitter while he's out and about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
    Zuckerberg is a millennial.
    yup, didn't count that one, only millennial

    Zuck is 34, next closest is 45

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    That's not what I said, is it? I said it would have been nice if they noticed. I don't go in for blaming "generations," but the rise of corporate domination of US politics fits pretty darn nicely with the rise of the baby boomers. It sure as hell isn't something to be proud of.
    Oh, people noticed. McCain & Feingold (two Boomers) worked very hard to blunt the effect of money in politics - to no real benefit. Military Industrial Complex was too entrenched by then.

    If corporate domination of politics is your issue, what did Millenials and Gen-Xers do to prevent the Citizens United ruling? To me that was the death rattle of representative democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphee View Post
    At the company I work for, my favorite thing about boomers is that they got a retirement buyout a few years back to the tune of 250K (depending on years of service). Due to some stupid ass company policy they're allowed to come back as contractors making 30-40/hour doing next to nothing and handing in garbage work when they do. Every one of these assholes has a pension, a 401k, SS, and a huge buyout yet they've fucked up their retirement so badly that they continue screw over young folks who are beating on the door to get in. You love to see it.
    Assuming what you wrote is correct, why would a business motivated by profit hire people it bought out unless of course there were no qualified candidates to fill in. You think they handed out 250k to make people feel good? Having a pension ,SS and 401k is not fucking up retirement either.
    Sounds like a bunch of unsuccessful cry babies around here. Of course wealth is distributed unequally.
    Old people always have had more. There expenses are generally less and they donít buy shit.
    I stand by my assessment of a bunch of miserable babies around here. In one breath everyone complains ikon made their Mountain crowded in the next breath itís no one has money under 70.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    Assuming what you wrote is correct, why would a business motivated by profit hire people it bought out unless of course there were no qualified candidates to fill in. You think they handed out 250k to make people feel good? Having a pension ,SS and 401k is not fucking up retirement either.
    Sounds like a bunch of unsuccessful cry babies around here. Of course wealth is distributed unequally.
    Old people always have had more. There expenses are generally less and they don’t buy shit.
    I stand by my assessment of a bunch of miserable babies around here. In one breath everyone complains ikon made their Mountain crowded in the next breath it’s no one has money under 70.



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    The rationale is that they're saving money by bringing in "experienced" workers they don't need to train and the contract agencies offer no benefits. Plenty of qualified young workers out there.

    And yes, having a pension, 401k, SS and STILL not being able to stay the fuck home is the definition of failed retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    That fucker alone could build 500 affordable housing units at the base of each Cottonwood Canyon.
    wouldnít Sandy be a better location? many bros already there so thereís a temp work force, building materials close by, must be a mediocre tile outlet and there is room to grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcphee View Post
    At the company I work for, my favorite thing about boomers is that they got a retirement buyout a few years back to the tune of 250K (depending on years of service). Due to some stupid ass company policy they're allowed to come back as contractors making 30-40/hour doing next to nothing and handing in garbage work when they do. Every one of these assholes has a pension, a 401k, SS, and a huge buyout yet they've fucked up their retirement so badly that they continue screw over young folks who are beating on the door to get in. You love to see it.
    the companies totally do this^^ for a lot of good reasons. At IBM they call them ROC's or Retiree-On-Call, buddy already understands the culture, the program, knows all the players, knows the job, is better than a contract employee, will come to work when asked, will go away when not needed, the mother corp can run a little leaner/keep the head count down and still respond to work load but if your ^^ company is paying for shitty work that doesn't sound very smart


    the retiree regardless of his/her financial position is still really invested in staying working and wouldn't know what to do if they didnt have a warm screen to show up at IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY so what happens is these ^^ people go on working almost forever instead of retiring

    IME it was a positive thing to completely separate from the mother corp and find a different gig or no gig
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    Assuming what you wrote is correct, why would a business motivated by profit hire people it bought out unless of course there were no qualified candidates to fill in. You think they handed out 250k to make people feel good?
    Why? Because they are stupid and lazy, that's why. I worked at a company that did exactly what McPhee described - and it wasn't because they were super smart efficient market geniuses. It wasn't because they couldn't hire capable replacements. It was because they were fuckups.

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    why does the baby boomer generation suck so bad

    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    Assuming what you wrote is correct, why would a business motivated by profit hire people it bought out unless of course there were no qualified candidates to fill in. You think they handed out 250k to make people feel good? Having a pension ,SS and 401k is not fucking up retirement either.
    Sounds like a bunch of unsuccessful cry babies around here. Of course wealth is distributed unequally.
    Old people always have had more. There expenses are generally less and they donít buy shit.
    I stand by my assessment of a bunch of miserable babies around here. In one breath everyone complains ikon made their Mountain crowded in the next breath itís no one has money under 70.



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    If itís a public company they remove long term liability from balance sheet. Or, perhaps they are looking to get acquired. Itís much easier for an acquirer to cut cost when long term liability is removed. The senior management is also looking to maximize its profit in a liquidity event.

    They have to pay severance anyway if they were to lay them off not to mention the health care costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    wouldn’t Sandy be a better location? many bros already there so there’s a temp work force, building materials close by, must be a mediocre tile outlet and there is room to grow.
    Bob, this is the kind forward thinking that may be lacking among the millennials.

    I don't know who makes up all these generational categories, they seem kinda arbitrary. It used to be classified by age, 20's, 30's, 40's, etc., which I thought was easy to figure out for most people. It's a bit like gender assignments today. Everybody wants to belong to some ever narrowing sub-group, then they complain about being treated differently. Gender fluid? Used to be someone who liked banging both chicks and dudes, which they did a lot in Roman times. Some people think this is a newly discovered lifestyle and needs to be labelled as such.

    I think the world would be a whole lot better off if people didn't worry so much about giving themselves an identity or worry about what one group has that the other doesn't. Young people have health, which is priceless, and for which lots of old, rich people would give their entire fortune. Do your own goddamn thing to make yourself or the world a better (not bitter) place and stop blaming others for what you don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    I don't know who makes up all these generational categories, they seem kinda arbitrary.
    God made those categories fwiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    God made those categories fwiw.
    Then we shall honor and glorify them. I retract my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    .

    I don't know who makes up all these generational categories, they seem kinda arbitrary..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudfoot View Post
    The future has always been scary. Boomers grew up during the Cold War doing regular drills hiding under their school desks in case of a nuclear attack. Based on the world today I'd guess that SS is the least of your worries.
    Not entirely true. We hid down in the school basement with all the peeling asbestos covered pipes.

    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    unfortunately the booomers cry the loudest and whine endlessly when they don't get their way, they have all this free time that I don't have to sit and bitch and bitch until they have things their way, talk about a spoiled rotten group of people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Tell folks who served in Vietnam and are suffering from agent orange exposure or Desert Storm vets who were hanging ass shoulder to shoulder over a rope with dysentery or resperatory disease from burning oil wells, or the soldiers stations in Balad, Iraq who breathed in fumes from a 10 acre open air burn pit of 200 tons of waste per day about how soft they are.

    War is horrible and to keep it on topic, the Boomers having suffered through the Vietnam era should have known better than get us involved in the longest war in US history.
    Neither Bush nor Cheney got anywhere near Vietnam. (I didn't serve either) Rumsfeld wasn't a boomer--he was a navy pilot in the 50's, between wars. There's something to be said for universal military service--there would have been no Afghanistan or Iraq wars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Fine. Perhaps we can help fastfred pick out some backsplash tile for this lady then?

    We're just wasting time pointing fingers here. Let's get the fuck to work and make freddie some $$. Poor fucker's gonna need some savings when Social Security and Medicare go under.
    FWIW we did our own tile backsplash. OK, my wife did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by doebedoe View Post
    Not only this -- compare the wealth of boomers to any other generation. They may only make up 23% of the population, but they control a large majority of wealth and major institutions in this country -- be they large corporations or political institutions.

    People who think just because someone is in the minority of sheer numbers mean that the other groups can easily attain power are the ones that need a history lesson.
    The elders will always be the wealthiest (as opposed to having the highest incomes). Wealth takes time to accumulate. A large part of boomers' wealth is in their houses, which have appreciated dramatically in value. As those houses pass to their heirs at stepped up basis the wealth they represent will become millennial wealth. Another large source of wealth is in retirement accounts--much of which will be spent down as boomers age and will again pass to millennials as the boomers die, if there's anything left. However, given that such a huge portion of the wealth in this country is owned by such a tiny percentage of people, comparing the wealth of various generations as a whole is a meaningless exercise.

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    why does the baby boomer generation suck so bad

    Quote Originally Posted by TBS View Post
    Yer gonna pin a Supreme Court appointment in 1971 on Boomers? Less than have of the cohort could even vote then. Presidents from Eisenhower up until Clinton were Greatest Generation


    Federal budget was in balance or a surplus 13 years in the last 90. And Reagan was a Greatest Generation Prez


    Yup, this I agree with. The Laffer Curve supporting Reaganís cuts is a joke, but as you remember, times were pretty tough in 1980, so tax cuts made some sense.



    Boomers got married and had Millenials. Kinda hard to simultaneously man the barricades and manage your job, spousal relationship and kids life to the fullest extent necessary. Boomers were the first generation where both spouses had to work to support a family, making social activism time difficult. And Boomers couldnít protest by Tweet the way Millennials can today





    This.
    If millennials want to blame something for their reduced opportunity, blame computer technology and China for taking all the low-end jobs.
    Seriously dude. The metric conversion act was signed in 1975, then cancelled by RR in 82. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metr...s#20th_century. Boomers and silent generation objected to it.

    The majority of boomers have opposed national healthcare, since the 90s at minimum. Even today when most boomers are on single payer the selfish bastards say, well this works great for me but if we let YOU in it will water down my benefits that I paid for with loans you will repay for me.

    The election of bush took place in 2000 and 2004, when the vast majority and large majority of millennials couldnít vote. Those who did overwhelmingly didnít support Bush. Majority of boomers supported Bush. So your argument here is that even though most of us couldnít vote and didnít support Bush and the WOT, we should have mobilized to offset the shitty decisions the boomers were making. And somehow the millennials are equally to blame for policies we opposed and boomers supported?

    Yea the boomers were young when the war on drugs started but the majority supported it for their entire lives.

    To add to the list, how about boomers continuing to deny climate change in the face of overwhelming evidence... https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-generation/. Even those who say anthropogenic climate change is real are largely unwilling to act on it if it has any negative effect on them.

    Boomers are completely unwilling to take responsibility for their actions. In one breath they blame George Bush on the millennials, in the next they say the war on drugs isnít their fault because they werenít old enough to influence politics when it started. I donít know what is wrong with elders these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Seriously dude. The metric conversion act was signed in 1975, then cancelled by RR in 82. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metr...s#20th_century. Boomers and silent generation objected to it.

    The majority of boomers have opposed national healthcare, since the 90s at minimum. Even today when most boomers are on single payer the selfish bastards say, well this works great for me but if we let YOU in it will water down my benefits that I paid for with loans you will repay for me.

    The election of bush took place in 2000 and 2004, when the vast majority and large majority of millennials couldn’t vote. Those who did overwhelmingly didn’t support Bush. Majority of boomers supported Bush. So your argument here is that even though most of us couldn’t vote and didn’t support Bush and the WOT, we should have mobilized to offset the shitty decisions the boomers were making. And somehow the millennials are equally to blame for policies we opposed and boomers supported?

    Yea the boomers were young when the war on drugs started but the majority supported it for their entire lives.

    To add to the list, how about boomers continuing to deny climate change in the face of overwhelming evidence... https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-generation/. Even those who say anthropogenic climate change is real are largely unwilling to act on it if it has any negative effect on them.

    Boomers are completely unwilling to take responsibility for their actions. In one breath they blame George Bush on the millennials, in the next they say the war on drugs isn’t their fault because they weren’t old enough to influence politics when it started. I don’t know what is wrong with elders these days.
    Or how about millennials who believe in a flat earth or don't know how to use a socket?

    Stupidity isn't limited to any one age group. But the millennials have it and gullibility in spades. I mean they really believed Sergey's "don't be evil" motto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Bob, this is the kind forward thinking that may be lacking among the millennials.

    I don't know who makes up all these generational categories, they seem kinda arbitrary. It used to be classified by age, 20's, 30's, 40's, etc., which I thought was easy to figure out for most people. It's a bit like gender assignments today. Everybody wants to belong to some ever narrowing sub-group, then they complain about being treated differently. Gender fluid? Used to be someone who liked banging both chicks and dudes, which they did a lot in Roman times. Some people think this is a newly discovered lifestyle and needs to be labelled as such.

    I think the world would be a whole lot better off if people didn't worry so much about giving themselves an identity or worry about what one group has that the other doesn't. Young people have health, which is priceless, and for which lots of old, rich people would give their entire fortune. Do your own goddamn thing to make yourself or the world a better (not bitter) place and stop blaming others for what you don't have.
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    It's not the boomers, it's not the silent generation or the millenials or the kids, it's the .01%

    Point oh one.

    Those are the people fucking us all, not some arbitrary group of people of similar age. But this plays perfectly into their plan, because the people that should be getting the blame (them) get ignored, while we squabble amongst ourselves for their scraps. See the truth. Act on it. Stop blaming people whose fault it is not. Blame the people whose fault it is.

    Krugman's been very good on this lately, read some of it.

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    ^^^ bingo.


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    Yeah, except part of what ppl are getting at is that the ďgreed is goodĒ Reagan generation is aggressively protecting trickle-down while having massively benefitted their whole lives from the things theyíre now undermining.

    So yeah, .01% for sure, but also a critical mass of gullible fuckwits who think the rich are heroic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    It's not the boomers, it's not the silent generation or the millenials or the kids, it's the .01%

    Point oh one.

    Those are the people fucking us all, not some arbitrary group of people of similar age. But this plays perfectly into their plan, because the people that should be getting the blame (them) get ignored, while we squabble amongst ourselves for their scraps. See the truth. Act on it. Stop blaming people whose fault it is not. Blame the people whose fault it is.

    Krugman's been very good on this lately, read some of it.
    On point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    So yeah, .01% for sure, but also a critical mass of gullible fuckwits who think the rich are heroic.
    Well fuckwits gonna fuckwit. Don't be one of them is all.

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