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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    I think we need to parse this into two categories:

    (A) People that claim to have a belief and learned something to hang their hat on. I call them BELIEVERS of whatever (not religious exclusively but have some substance to their belief). So then, self-identified ATHIESTS and/or AGNOSTICS are in fact believers. That also doesn't place all belief on the same level - because belief can also be evaluated for rationality and evidence too.

    (B) People that claim to have no belief but claim to be in the process of learning. These, politically, would be identified as 'undecided'.


    No, atheists are non believers. Big difference. Think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Highmen View Post
    No, atheists are non believers. Big difference. Think.
    Exactly.

    And (usually) they've put more thought into their not believing.
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    I'm willing to go with Dr. Johnson and agree that if i kick a rock it will hurt.

    In this model we seem to inhabit.

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    Touche.
    I got to go now.
    Carry on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Exactly.

    And (usually) they've put more thought into their not believing.
    Agnostics have. I don't know about atheists.

    ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Exactly.

    And (usually) they've put more thought into their not believing.
    You can't think your way through faith. That's why it's called faith. Believing that there is no god is no more rational or subject to inquiry or proof or demonstration than believing that there is. But please think all you want, if you enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    You can't think your way through faith. That's why it's called faith. Believing that there is no god is no more rational or subject to inquiry or proof or demonstration than believing that there is. So please think all you want, if you enjoy it.
    What would convince you that there is more than the physical world?

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    At this stage of life, I realize I'm not any good at thinking. But I still try.
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    exactly ^^ thats why i can't believe in god

    but i can believe shit will go on sale

    so always hold out for 40% off MRSP
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    You can't think your way through faith.
    Try telling that to someone who is religious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    What would convince you that there is more than the physical world?
    Proof?

    What are you imagining you know convinces you?
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    I've been waiting for one of the Keebler elves to hop out of one of those boxes.

    Until that happens, I'm a non believer. And an agnostic.
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    We池e all just bumbling through, trying to make some sense of this infinite indivisible reality, yet limited to a peephole of subjectivity and the instincts of an ape. I don稚 go for any of that religious dogma, as I prefer more a little more subtlety and paradox in the lies I tell myself.

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    I believe in the power of the 12th man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Proof?

    What are you imagining you know convinces you?
    We had a confirmed spirit living in our fist house. We called him Old Bill. Died from TB quarantined to the shed in the back yard of the house. He never left completely I guess. The American Indian mover we had said he felt a good spirit lived in the house. That was after the kids told us about seeing him and asked who he was. The kids who lived there next spoke of seeing him the the school psychologist. My wife read the reports.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kootenayskier View Post
    We’re all just bumbling through, trying to make some sense of this infinite indivisible reality, yet limited to a peephole of subjectivity and the instincts of an ape. I don’t go for any of that religious dogma, as I prefer more a little more subtlety and paradox in the lies I tell myself.
    I'm with you. I'm going to live my life and do my best to respect mother earth and all creatures that live upon her. Endeavor to be enlightened and consider the impact my actions have on the world around me.

    Personally, I believe that when you die it's lights out, end of story, and I'm okay with that. However, if when I die it ends up there is a deity and I find myself at the pearly gates it's going to go one of two ways. Either he/she/it will be magnanimous and applaud my free thinking (with which I was endowed) or he/she/it will be vengeful and what I did in life will make no difference.

    <shrug>

    Until then I'm going to keep bumbling along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puregravity View Post
    There are probably lots of pedo rings run by atheists.
    Do those pedo rings have a doctrine of infallibility?

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    Yeah, it do not work like that.

    Learn yo lessons, also do not be a douche bag.

    Yer 7 layer bio body suit wears out.

    If yer good, yer good. The opposite is also trew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    btw Hitchens was no fan of Billy Graham either:

    Would you expect any less from the main that coined the antitheist term?

    Hitchens was abused growing up and then lost his mom to the church (pact suicide). that kind of shit will color ones whole life and Hitchins buried his demons in booze, nicotine and anger.

    Asking him to review anything supported by the church nets a similar result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    Would you expect any less from the main that coined the antitheist term?
    antitheist

    n.
    alsoanti-theist,"oneopposedtobeliefintheexistenceof agod,"1813;seeanti-+theist.Related:Antitheistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deebased View Post
    Hitchens was abused growing up and then lost his mom to the church (pact suicide). that kind of shit will color ones whole life and Hitchins buried his demons in booze, nicotine and anger. .
    Booze, Nicotine and Anger is the name of my new band.

    I bet Ad Hominem Nonsense is the name of yours you turd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Proof?
    What kind of proof?

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    I dunno, maybe a duck?

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