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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    Yeah, I know it's not entirely fair. Though I'd wager a large percentage of the drunk people on golf courses are in a cart or at least have a hand cart.

    And if there were bars every 1000 vertical feet while out skiing, there'd be more drunk backcountry skiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post


    Look, if my dad, who is 72, would golf 3 times a week, and get in a couple sessions of some sort of resistance training, I'd be psyched. What he does is walk slowly 2-4 miles a day on flat roads. His doctor tells him how great it is. He is aging fast.

    My mom is the same age. She also walks a lot, but with more hikes in the mountains. She also does pilates and yoga with lots of strength poses (or whatever they call it). My mom can still (and does) ski all day about 50-80 days a year. We still go on moderate ski tours together. She's not hard core. Never has been. But she takes care of herself.

    The difference between them is stark. When I was young my father was by far the more physically capable and athletic. Now it is completely reversed. Before my parents were divorced they were what I call "ex-hippie recreational farmers" who raised sheep in addition to working day jobs. That farm work kept my dad strong and lean. Once that stopped it's been down hill ever since.
    Sometimes the difference in fitness and activity between various older people is due to motivation and hard work or the lack of it, but a lot of the time it's in the genes. People slow down because they don't work out, but they also stop working out because it gets too hard and/or painful. One thing that often happens is that someone gets hurt or gets sick--over 65 more or less recovery takes longer and longer and is often incomplete, no matter how hard someone works at it.

    Quote Originally Posted by beece View Post
    If we continue with this is should be it’s own thread, but to answer Danno...

    To explain where this is coming from, I have multiple family members who are professional coaches (one happens to coach olympians and world champions), another who is a pro nutritionist, and I have run a bike team, played a sport semi pro, etc. I live in this world everyday.

    With that background, my current opinion is that as a normal guy trying to be generally fit, what you want is a combination of short, high intensity exercise that pushes your max heart rate; easy exercise for an hour or two; and full body strength work. As an example, if each week you did one day each of those three things, and did them correctly, you would be pretty damn fit. You could do that in three hours per week.

    Edit: I should specify - this would be for general life fitness and work well for almost everyone. However, if you are trying to train for a specific activity and do that at a very high level, you would want a different program. Someone mentioned House and Johnson, who are very focused on quite long endurance activity - that would have a tweaked program, but you'd still want some high intensity and some strength. On the other extreme, if you were training to be a sprinter, you'd push toward the other extreme, but you'd still want some slow and easy for recovery. However, the basic trio still holds as building blocks.

    Happy to get into it further if folks are interested.
    Makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I agree that women national team base salary should be the same as men but pay as percent of WC tournament revenue is how the men and women are compensated for the tournament. An independent review of revenue, especially for US women, is certainly warranted as I suspect interest in the US women and value commercially exceeds the men.

    On a related note:

    "The R&A announced today that the prize fund for the upcoming AIG Women’s British Open will increase to US$4,500,000, an increase of almost 40% for 2019, in recognition of the importance of the Championship and women’s golf."
    As Dwight Jaynes pointed out four years ago after the U.S. women beat Japan to capture the World Cup in Vancouver, there is a big difference in the revenue available to pay the teams. The Women's World Cup brought in almost $73 million, of which the players got 13%. The 2010 men's World Cup in South Africa made almost $4 billion, of which 9% went to the players.

    The men still pull the World Cup money wagon. The men's World Cup in Russia generated over $6 billion in revenue, with the participating teams sharing $400 million, less than 7% of revenue. Meanwhile, the Women's World Cup is expected to earn $131 million for the full four-year cycle 2019-22 and dole out $30 million to the participating teams.

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    As far as I know FIFA doesn’t break up how much they make for men’s and women’s World Cup, so I’m not sure where you get those numbers.

    Plus, breaking it out that way ignores the bigger issues with the pay gap: namely that most countries aren’t investing money into their women’s programs. The fact the places like Brazil and Argentina have women on their teams that are not full-time athletes tells you everything you need to know.

    People who complain about the level of play or the talent disparity should be demanding more equal investment in players and coaches and training facilities.

    Finally, the world wide numbers have nothing to do with the US, where the women’s World Cup outpaced ratings and jersey sales of the last men’s World Cup.

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    Interesting point about the fact that other nations probably aren't outspending the US with regard to WNT investment. Might not be as successful if more of the nations had full time women's programs instead of part timers. Guessing the big four or five in Europe do field full time pros though.
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    i have never understood why people get upset at what entertainers make. athletes are not important or role models.

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    Ali was a strong role model
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoon View Post
    As far as I know FIFA doesn’t break up how much they make for men’s and women’s World Cup, so I’m not sure where you get those numbers.
    FIFA doesn't pay the USWNT so it doesn't matter. US Soccer pays the USWNT and US Soccer has broken out the revenue numbers.

    ggs just has the usual bullshit rightwing talking point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    athletes are not important or role models.
    Riiiight. Have you ever talked to a kid who’s into sports? Ever?
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    you mean have you talked to their parents? lol

    no i haven't ever talked to a kid that is really into sports. mine are not and I don't talk to that many kids

    your attitude is the whole problem. kids should be taught sports people aren't role models. i did

    in my opinion sports have fucked up kids more than they have benefited kids

    i have quietly asked around in my community does anyone know of a kid that got a scholarship for sports. the answer is almost universally no. the coaching I had in hockey was abysmal and I still hate baseball to this day from the twat coaches I had in little league

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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    Riiiight. Have you ever talked to a kid who’s into sports? Ever?
    I can’t remember ever holding any athlete as a role model. Maybe admire their skill or mimic their style but never thought of them as some kind of moral or behavioral pillar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    ggs just has the usual bullshit rightwing talking point.
    Aka actual numbers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    I can’t remember ever holding any athlete as a role model. Maybe admire their skill or mimic their style but never thought of them as some kind of moral or behavioral pillar.
    well you have a clue and I know you are a jock. jock is not pejorative, I should have written athlete

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    Aka actual numbers...
    FIFA doesn't pay the USWNT. What the fuck is so fucking hard for rightwingers to understand about that? Again: US Soccer pays the USWNT. The national soccer orgs decide who & how money is spent on their national programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    you mean have you talked to their parents? lol

    no i haven't ever talked to a kid that is really into sports. mine are not and I don't talk to that many kids

    your attitude is the whole problem. kids should be taught sports people aren't role models. i did

    in my opinion sports have fucked up kids more than they have benefited kids

    i have quietly asked around in my community does anyone know of a kid that got a scholarship for sports. the answer is almost universally no. the coaching I had in hockey was abysmal and I still hate baseball to this day from the twat coaches I had in little league
    My attitude? You project. I talk to kids a lot. My friends have kids, etc. They have heroes who are athletes, whether you like that or not. BTW, I have some very good friends who are still competing and were former Olympians who are fabulous role models.

    OK, would Joanie Samuelson be a good role model?

    Sorry your sports experience sucked so much. I’ve had tons of coaches, most good, some bad, (like people).
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    no i am not projecting, i just watch and listen to the parents I know...

    my favorite is the relative who sent their kid to prep school because they were going pro and ended up playing div3 with no scholarship

    oh and athletes are not role models. your friends may be great people but running fast or throwing something far is no big fucking deal. really - it's nothing to laud

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    Athletes don't get paid to be role models. They get paid to make money for other people--the owners, broadcasters, advertisers--and they deserve a fair slice of the pie, whatever that is---as long as the team or the sport is not being subsidized by the taxpayers. Public stadiums and arenas are a travesty unless they are turning a profit for the city, which is rarely if ever the case.

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    Another month, maybe two and women's soccer will be forgotten until the next world cup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    oh and athletes are not role models. your friends may be great people but running fast or throwing something far is no big fucking deal. really - it's nothing to laud
    Don't you mean they shouldn't be role models? Because they most certainly are role models for many, that seems pretty indisputable.
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    people do a lot of stupid shit, my favorite at the moment is to say go back to the country you are from when you were born here

    i've had that posted at me here because my parents are dutch

    so yeah danno - athletes = role model = stupid = lots of people

    oh wait, i should leave the usa, never mind

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    Wait wait wait, you're Dutch?!?!? That explains so much! Fucking Orangie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vt-Freeheel View Post
    Another month, maybe two and women's soccer will be forgotten until the next world cup.
    Kinda like mass shootings, but they'll last a wee bit longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
    people do a lot of stupid shit, my favorite at the moment is to say go back to the country you are from when you were born here

    i've had that posted at me here because my parents are dutch

    so yeah danno - athletes = role model = stupid = lots of people

    oh wait, i should leave the usa, never mind
    two things I can't stand: people who are intolerant of others, and the Dutch.

    Tiger Woods used his skill at golf to make a lot of $ and gain access to the pants of many many women of variable quality. That's pretty fucking heroic IMHO...
    ... jfost is really ignorant, he often just needs simple facts laid out for him...

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    Good article about post WC women's professional soccer and how the players, particularly Sinclair, are role models to young girls.
    https://deadspin.com/the-biggest-thi...sam-1836365285
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