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    Mass Snake ID

    Not a big snake guy, and have spent my 20-30 min searching teh googlez with no definitive answer.

    My boys found this full-bellied fellow in Metro-west today (Newton..)

    What is it? Rat Snake?

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    I'd guess Black Racer but not an expert.

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    Went from there to here.. didnt feel there was a definitive answer .

    Am I missing something that clearly IDs it?

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    looks like keeled scales, so black rat snake? Just going by the web site, I've never seen one.

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    Well done research, thank you sir. Apprears to be a Black Rat Snake, grew up around here and it's the first I've seen. Wondering whats in its belly, guess would be a mole/vole/small mouse .

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    Mass Snake ID

    Black Rat Snake....common here in PA.....we get a guy every year to do a PA reptile and amphibian show for the elementary kids.....he always shows a Black Rat snake....pretty docile....where as the Black Racer is much more aggressive, active.

    Black Rat is good to have around the property....will control the mice/rodent pests around the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayPowHound View Post
    Well done research, thank you sir. Apprears to be a Black Rat Snake, grew up around here and it's the first I've seen. Wondering whats in its belly, guess would be a mole/vole/small mouse .
    Thank GOOGLE not me

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    I saw one the same sized last week. Black snake. 7 footer. Hate snakes.


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    Yeah they just call them Black Snakes around here. Pretty common. But they're usually pretty much black from what I've seen, and this guy looks kinda brownish-black with a faint pattern. But hell I don't know.

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    Huh.... when I saw this thread title I thought "Snake River Idaho" and that you found a mass of snakes.

    Goes to show, where you stand depends on where you sit and I sit close to the Idaho border along the Snake river.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC. View Post
    Black Rat Snake....common here in PA.....we get a guy every year to do a PA reptile and amphibian show for the elementary kids.....he always shows a Black Rat snake....pretty docile....where as the Black Racer is much more aggressive, active.

    Black Rat is good to have around the property....will control the mice/rodent pests around the house.
    this one seems to be a rat...

    i always thought they were the aggressive ones and the racers were docile. a couple of years ago i was waiting for the metro north in beacon and there was one pretending to 'rattle' its tail at all of the commuters in a threatening way. i guess if it bit you it would pinch but not do much more than leave a mark.

    Ah, the rat snake is also an amazing climber, sometimes they just chill on the side of trees. Cool to see.
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    An old girlfriend of mine was from Missouri and when she was a kid she fell through the surface of a riverbank into a den of copperheads. It was winter and cold out and they were pretty much immobile and she was fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    An old girlfriend of mine was from Missouri and when she was a kid she fell through the surface of a riverbank into a den of copperheads. It was winter and cold out and they were pretty much immobile and she was fine.
    You want snake stories, I've got snake stories... well, my family from Texas has snake stories like being chased by a water moccasin while swimming in a river <shudder> and coming across a live rattler with 21 rattles (I've seen the rattle).
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    i was trying to figure out where mass snake idaho was
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    i was trying to figure out where mass snake idaho was
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    I was taking a bath once as a teenager (no shower in our house) and I heard a strange noise. It was an old farmhouse in disrepair with exposed beams. The noise was a five foot long milk snake slithering out of one knot hole, along the beams and into another knot hole on a different beam. WTFF?!?!?! "There's snakes in the fucking walls!!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC. View Post
    Black Rat snake....pretty docile....where as the Black Racer is much more aggressive, active
    The black racers are aptly named. Saw one once and I don't think I could have outrun it thru the woods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riser3 View Post
    WTFF?!?!?! "There's snakes in the fucking walls!!!"

    Where ever you find mice you’re going to find snakes snackin’ on ‘em......

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    this little guy was trying to sleep this past weekend
    my buddy was going to rest for a bit on this rock along the trail

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    One of my moms HS classmates got killed waterskiing when he fell into a mass of breeding water moccasins.
    Dafuq?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Dafuq?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cottonmouth-washed/

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    Quote Originally Posted by steepconcrete View Post
    Yea same here.

    One of my moms HS classmates got killed waterskiing when he fell into a mass of breeding water moccasins.
    looks like this is an old wives tale, literally.
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