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  1. #426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    ... running on the downhill is guaranteed flow state given the consequences.
    ^^ no doubt but fun as shit!

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    the late great Warren Witherell used to say that running in rocky dry streambeds was the best training you could do for skiing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    the late great Warren Witherell used to say that running in rocky dry streambeds was the best training you could do for skiing.
    When I lived in Utah my favorite run was down Olympus. I'd do it with a roommate and we'd follow each other closely enough that you basically had to step where the first person put their feet. Otherwise you didn't have time to react fast enough. It was interesting to see how differently we chose to run down rocky trails.

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    Skiing is the best training for skiing.

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    Master of mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I'm convinced that downhill trail running is also the best off-season training there is for skiing. Still have my number? Hit me up if you ever want to get out for a RunDown.
    Running downhill seems like the only activity that is harder on your knees than skiing. You guys should go run with the hordes of people running down BCC every weekend, I hear you are guaranteed a PR hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRUTAH View Post
    Running downhill seems like the only activity that is harder on your knees than skiing.
    Trail running is dope, but I always wonder about this part. Shits gotta wear on your knees the more you do it

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    A friend is training for a race at snowbird and she was saying she does 12k vert days to train, 3x a week. My jaw hit the floor as that would destroy my knees in week 1.

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    People dying on Mt. Everest, what else is new

    ^that is bonktacular

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    Let's do some livin'
    After, we die

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    On the topic of the meditative aspects of running; I think that's why these dudes are doing...

    https://3100.srichinmoyraces.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    A friend is training for a race at snowbird and she was saying she does 12k vert days to train, 3x a week. My jaw hit the floor as that would destroy my knees in week 1.
    Nothing to see here...if yer a 0.00001 percenter. For the rest of us in the middle of the bell curve of average genetics....
    Master of mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    A friend is training for a race at snowbird and she was saying she does 12k vert days to train, 3x a week. My jaw hit the floor as that would destroy my knees in week 1.
    Speedgoat?? Looks like the short course still has openings. Wonder if I can kick my ass in shape fast enough

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    Chouinard's catalog one year had an essay by Doug Robinson I think on the virtues of downhill running on talus. It always seemed too high consequence for my tastes.

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    Have not read essay (would really like to) but .... running downhill on scree; that makes sense. Running downhill on slopes containing scree-ish material approaching the scree - talus interface; sure, why not, you only live once. Running downhill on legit talus (settled or not); mostly no fun and just plain ol' dumb. What an efficient way to f*ck yourself up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swissiphic View Post
    Nothing to see here...if yer a 0.00001 percenter. For the rest of us in the middle of the bell curve of average genetics....
    Preach, not something I'm capable of either

    Quote Originally Posted by abraham View Post
    Speedgoat?? Looks like the short course still has openings. Wonder if I can kick my ass in shape fast enough
    Yeah that's it! Type 2-3 fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angle Parking View Post
    Have not read essay (would really like to) but .... running downhill on scree; that makes sense. Running downhill on slopes containing scree-ish material approaching the scree - talus interface; sure, why not, you only live once. Running downhill on legit talus (settled or not); mostly no fun and just plain ol' dumb. What an efficient way to f*ck yourself up.
    good luck finding that catalog, was in the 70's or maybe 80's I think, back when Chouinard made climbing gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    good luck finding that catalog, was in the 70's or maybe 80's I think, back when Chouinard made climbing gear.
    Age has not diminished your memory old goat.

    Here's that article.


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    scree fields in the area i ski are not to be taken lightly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mau View Post
    Age has not diminished your memory old goat.

    Here's that article.

    sounds as nuts now as it did then.

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    John Muir? Never heard of him

    Every boulder is prepared and measured and put in its
    place more thoughtfully than are the stones of temples. If
    for a moment you are inclined to regard these taluses as
    mere draggling, chaotic dumps, climb to the tip of one of
    them, tie your mountain shoes firmly over the instep, and
    with braced nerves run down without any haggling,
    puttering hesitation, boldly jump from boulder to
    boulder with ever increasing speed. You will then find
    your feet playing a tune, and quickly discover the music
    and poetry of rock piles—a fine lesson, and all nature's
    wildness will tell the same story." — John Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    John Muir? Never heard of him
    I think he was Ansel Adams' dad.
    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mau View Post
    Age has not diminished your memory old goat.

    Here's that article.

    Thanks for that

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    Warren Witherell, from 1972, on a very similar topic (begins with "Consider running..." halfway down page 17). Witherell was amazing, you should know about him if you don't.

    https://books.google.com/books?id=ea...unning&f=false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    I'm convinced that downhill trail running is also the best off-season training there is for skiing.
    What led you this conclusion? I'm not seeing it. Uphill running, whether on dirt or concrete, would provide better physiologic base for ski-related activity.

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